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Wed, 10/17/2012 - 00:08
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I'm hoping they're only doing this crap because they underestimated the popularity of the Limited Edition. That's the only explanation I would accept.
Wed, 10/17/2012 - 06:53
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Get Early Access to Specializations | Play Halo 4 Standard Edition while connected to Xbox LIVE by November 20, 2012, and you’ll get early access to six Specializations.** That’s 60 additional levels and new content in Halo Infinity Multiplayer.

 

This comes straight out of my email from XBOX

 

and the ** is this 

**To receive early access to Specializations, you must purchase Halo 4 Standard Edition and play the game while connected to Xbox LIVE by 11:59:59 P.M. Eastern Time on November 20, 2012. A download code will be sent to the email address associated with your Xbox LIVE account by November 30, 2012; any email returned as nondeliverable will not be re-sent. Limit: one code per gamertag. Xbox LIVE Gold membership required for Halo Infinity Multiplayer (sold separately). Offer available to users 17 years of age and older in the following Xbox LIVE countries: United States, Canada, Chile, Mexico, Colombia, Brazil, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Korea, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, and India. Offer is nontransferable, not redeemable for cash, and cannot be combined with any other rebate or offer. In New Zealand, only adult accounts (18 years of age and older) can download or stream content over Xbox LIVE Marketplace. Taxes, if any, are the sole responsibility of the recipient. Download charges may apply as set by your ISP. For Xbox LIVE Terms of Use and system requirements, see www.xbox.com/live. Offer provided by: Microsoft Corporation, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, WA 98052.

 

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:27
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Another thought that occurs to me, 343 is going all in with Halo 4; they're probably afraid of pissing off the fans that tried to get the Limited Edition but were denied by it being sold out.
Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:42 (Reply to #34)
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Lou_Keymia wrote:
Another thought that occurs to me, 343 is going all in with Halo 4; they're probably afraid of pissing off the fans that tried to get the Limited Edition but were denied by it being sold out.

Sounds about right.  Now they've pissed off all the LE peeps LOL.54

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OldnAchy wrote:

Lou_Keymia wrote:
Another thought that occurs to me, 343 is going all in with Halo 4; they're probably afraid of pissing off the fans that tried to get the Limited Edition but were denied by it being sold out.

Sounds about right.  Now they've pissed off all the LE peeps LOL.54

Probably quite accurate. Wait till the SE owners read that fine print saying they don't get the code until Nov. 30. LE owners still get a 24 day lead. It's such a joke because even 343i didn't know when they would need to turn on additional Specializations for everybody. The biggest joke of all will be when we might find out it takes a month on average to prepare for and complete a Specialization.

I am guessing that LE owners will only get about 2 Specializations in before all of them are made public.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 09:48
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Stay classy Frankie.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 09:57
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They had mentioned things would unlock when the community hit certain reward zones/markers they had set forth. I guess they did away with that idea.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 10:15
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I havnt bought a LE of any game since the cat helmet ... score for me I guess

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 12:29
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To be honest, the ONLY thing that is a major point of interest to me in the LE are the map packs. I am kind of "meh" on most of the digital goodies. Also, not knowing how long it will take to reach SR50, to even begin our first Specialization, then complete the specialization, then start the next. I'm not sure waiting to have all the specializations unlocked for SE owners on Nov. 30th is that much time to have to wait. 

Especially when you consider 343 is saying they will be waiting to "turn on" the specializations, so all of this could be meaningless if 343 has not activated the specializations. 

Overall, I may just opt for the SE and the map pack pass. 

I still have my LE on order, but I might change that since all I really care about are the maps. I've been thinking about changing it since the map pack pass was announced and this may solidify my decision to change to the SE.

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My main concern was whether or not SE owners would get the new maps weeks later than LE owners.

I have only seen various forum rumors and comparisons to MW's "elite" subscription(which I never played and know nothing about.)

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 15:38 (Reply to #41)
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Quadricept wrote:

My main concern was whether or not SE owners would get the new maps weeks later than LE owners.

I have only seen various forum rumors and comparisons to MW's "elite" subscription(which I never played and know nothing about.)

That's never been the way Halo has done things with their map releases and I've not seen it even remotely hinted by 343. I would say the maps will be available to all players at the same time - regardless of SE or LE.

If LE were to get the maps first, that would certainly be something 343 should have stated back when the LE details were released.

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DarthTabasco wrote:

Quadricept wrote:

My main concern was whether or not SE owners would get the new maps weeks later than LE owners.

I have only seen various forum rumors and comparisons to MW's "elite" subscription(which I never played and know nothing about.)

That's never been the way Halo has done things with their map releases and I've not seen it even remotely hinted by 343. I would say the maps will be available to all players at the same time - regardless of SE or LE.

If LE were to get the maps first, that would certainly be something 343 should have stated back when the LE details were released.

RIght, you may see special DLC hoppers for the haves and have nots, but nothing like what ELIT3 was.

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DarthTabasco wrote:

Quadricept wrote:

My main concern was whether or not SE owners would get the new maps weeks later than LE owners.

I have only seen various forum rumors and comparisons to MW's "elite" subscription(which I never played and know nothing about.)

That's never been the way Halo has done things with their map releases and I've not seen it even remotely hinted by 343. I would say the maps will be available to all players at the same time - regardless of SE or LE.

If LE were to get the maps first, that would certainly be something 343 should have stated back when the LE details were released.

Halo 3 Mythic maps DLC had staggered releases from Halo Wars LE and ODST.

I can't vouch for the exactness of these details from http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Mythic_map_pack but it seems correct.

Set One

The first part of the Mythic map pack is a Halo 3 DLC map pack, which includes three multiplayer maps, Assembly, Orbital, and Sandbox. It was released with the launch of Halo Wars, but it is only included with the Limited Edition of the game. The Limited Edition was released in Asia and Australia on February 26, in Europe and Africa on February 27, and in the Americas, on March 3, with the Limited Edition version of Halo Wars.[3] On March 23, 2009 Microsoft confirmed April 9, 2009 as the release date for Mythic as Downloadable Content (DLC) on Xbox Live for 800 Microsoft Points. And in July 2010 the price dropped to 400 Microsoft Points[4]

 

Set Two

The second Mythic map pack, titled "Mythic II map pack", was included on Halo 3: Mythic, the multiplayer disc included with Halo 3: ODST, which was released on September 22, 2009. The second package includes the maps Longshore, Heretic, and Citadel. The second map pack was made available as a DLC by February 2, 2010.

 

 

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

DarthTabasco wrote:

Quadricept wrote:

My main concern was whether or not SE owners would get the new maps weeks later than LE owners.

I have only seen various forum rumors and comparisons to MW's "elite" subscription(which I never played and know nothing about.)

That's never been the way Halo has done things with their map releases and I've not seen it even remotely hinted by 343. I would say the maps will be available to all players at the same time - regardless of SE or LE.

If LE were to get the maps first, that would certainly be something 343 should have stated back when the LE details were released.

Halo 3 Mythic maps DLC had staggered releases from Halo Wars LE and ODST.

I can't vouch for the exactness of these details from http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Mythic_map_pack but it seems correct.

Set One

The first part of the Mythic map pack is a Halo 3 DLC map pack, which includes three multiplayer maps, Assembly, Orbital, and Sandbox. It was released with the launch of Halo Wars, but it is only included with the Limited Edition of the game. The Limited Edition was released in Asia and Australia on February 26, in Europe and Africa on February 27, and in the Americas, on March 3, with the Limited Edition version of Halo Wars.[3] On March 23, 2009 Microsoft confirmed April 9, 2009 as the release date for Mythic as Downloadable Content (DLC) on Xbox Live for 800 Microsoft Points. And in July 2010 the price dropped to 400 Microsoft Points[4]

 

Set Two

The second Mythic map pack, titled "Mythic II map pack", was included on Halo 3: Mythic, the multiplayer disc included with Halo 3: ODST, which was released on September 22, 2009. The second package includes the maps Longshore, Heretic, and Citadel. The second map pack was made available as a DLC by February 2, 2010.

 

 

Hmmmm. Not sure what to think now128

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 13:25 (Reply to #45)
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Quadricept wrote:

Hmmmm. Not sure what to think now128

I wouldn't worry about buying the DLC Map Pass. I figure all the DLC will come out for everyone on the same day.

I only wanted to show there have been staggered releases. Each of those cases was related to another game's release to improve its sales appeal.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Quadricept wrote:

Hmmmm. Not sure what to think now128

I wouldn't worry about buying the DLC Map Pass. I figure all the DLC will come out for everyone on the same day.

I only wanted to show there have been staggered releases. Each of those cases was related to another game's release to improve its sales appeal.

 

I believe M$ learned their lesson from the whole Halo Wars & ODST staggered DLC fiasco and won't repeat that mistake.

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bunsen27 wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Quadricept wrote:

Hmmmm. Not sure what to think now128

I wouldn't worry about buying the DLC Map Pass. I figure all the DLC will come out for everyone on the same day.

I only wanted to show there have been staggered releases. Each of those cases was related to another game's release to improve its sales appeal.

 

I believe M$ learned their lesson from the whole Halo Wars & ODST staggered DLC fiasco and won't repeat that mistake.

Resting, assured. yes

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I hope we can get some free skins or armor.

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I bet this really has to do with boosting the console bundle sales.

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SquatterBag wrote:

I bet this really has to do with boosting the console bundle sales.

That would make sense.
Thu, 10/18/2012 - 00:39 (Reply to #51)
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Lou_Keymia wrote:
SquatterBag wrote:

I bet this really has to do with boosting the console bundle sales.

That would make sense.
This is 'Murica, take your logic elsewhere. 'Murica
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Call me crazy, but I don't think any game should give you a pay to win advantage. Halo has always been a balanced game and letting someone see ahead of time where an orbital drop is going to be or track the last person that shot at them when nobody else can just because they paid more is crap.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 07:33 (Reply to #53)
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KamakazeTaco wrote:

Call me crazy, but I don't think any game should give you a pay to win advantage. Halo has always been a balanced game and letting someone see ahead of time where an orbital drop is going to be or track the last person that shot at them when nobody else can just because they paid more is crap.

That is a great point.
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Call me crazy, but I don't think any game should give you a pay to win advantage. Halo has always been a balanced game and letting someone see ahead of time where an orbital drop is going to be or track the last person that shot at them when nobody else can just because they paid more is crap.

If this were as cut and dry as your comment suggests, I would agree.

If you review all of the information on Armod Mods, you cannot actually buy any of them. The most you can do is select from a larger palette of mods 24 days earlier than SE owners. Each mod must be earned by playing the game first to Lv 50 then through each Specialization until completition. There's no stopping or resetting or re-dos. Each must be completed before selecting the next. We do not know how long each Specialization will take to earn. I can only guess but it certainly seems as if it will takes months to earn most of them. Perhaps a year or more to get all of them.

LE owners simply get a choice of one of eight specialization after they earn a Lv 50. After 24 days everyone already playing on Gold gets the same option. Anyone who starts after that will be only partly behind the pay gate but eventually 343i will be making all of the mods public to be earned normally.

I'm more concerned about all the pop and chips the kids are going to eat earning Dbl XP points.

 

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

KamakazeTaco wrote:

Call me crazy, but I don't think any game should give you a pay to win advantage. Halo has always been a balanced game and letting someone see ahead of time where an orbital drop is going to be or track the last person that shot at them when nobody else can just because they paid more is crap.

If this were as cut and dry as your comment suggests, I would agree.

If you review all of the information on Armod Mods, you cannot actually buy any of them. The most you can do is select from a larger palette of mods 24 days earlier than SE owners. Each mod must be earned by playing the game first to Lv 50 then through each Specialization until completition. There's no stopping or resetting or re-dos. Each must be completed before selecting the next. We do not know how long each Specialization will take to earn. I can only guess but it certainly seems as if it will takes months to earn most of them. Perhaps a year or more to get all of them.

LE owners simply get a choice of one of eight specialization after they earn a Lv 50. After 24 days everyone already playing on Gold gets the same option. Anyone who starts after that will be only partly behind the pay gate but eventually 343i will be making all of the mods public to be earned normally.

I'm more concerned about all the pop and chips the kids are going to eat earning Dbl XP points.

 

 

I read it wrong then. I thought the LE folks were getting the specializations immediately like from level 1 and everyone else would have to do all the leveling up and earn em. It'll probably take most folks at least a month to get to level 50 so it's probably not that big a deal then.

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KamakazeTaco wrote:

Call me crazy, but I don't think any game should give you a pay to win advantage. Halo has always been a balanced game and letting someone see ahead of time where an orbital drop is going to be or track the last person that shot at them when nobody else can just because they paid more is crap.

 

for 20 plus days max.. The advantage would be minimal for a specific set of people for a short amount of time. Not to mention you would have to run into one of those people every match you played with those specific specializations.

 

Yes you will run into those people with those specializations but your exposure to it would be minimal at best and that the amount of exposure depends on how quickluy people can get to SR-50.

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Another thing to consider, as months and years move on, XP values will certainly increase, as that will keep a somewhat balanced curve going to keep new players interested.
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Since I already payed for the LE at Gamestop can I switch it to a SE.

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LegendcalledJim wrote:

Since I already payed for the LE at Gamestop can I switch it to a SE.

Wondering the same.... especially since we can keep Jonny's as an LE and change mine to save $15.  Ugh, it was all because of the map packs and now magically everyone will have them anyway.

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Flapjaxx wrote:

LegendcalledJim wrote:

Since I already payed for the LE at Gamestop can I switch it to a SE.

Wondering the same.... especially since we can keep Jonny's as an LE and change mine to save $15.  Ugh, it was all because of the map packs and now magically everyone will have them anyway.

 

Generally yeah you can change to the SE even at the midnight launch. Might even be able to do it over the phone.

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