Halo Bulletin 1/23/13. Cliffnote version, CSR in April (Maybe), griftball next week

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Halo Bulletin 1/23/13. Cliffnote version, CSR in April (Maybe), griftball next week

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 22:12
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it sucks its not visible in game and April seems kinda too long to wait...

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 23:35 (Reply to #2)
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I6_Hitman wrote:
it sucks its not visible in game and April seems kinda too long to wait...

 

More Details:

• You will have a unique CSR visible per playlist. 
• Your highest CSR across all playlists will be promoted in the player profile on Halo Waypoint. 
• CSR uses familiar 1-50 scale. 
• When CSR launches, everyone will start with a fresh rating.

I read this as your rank is going to be visible in game.  April is too long, but I think people probably don't realize how HUGE this is.  The way I read it all playlists will now have visible rank. I think it is going to vastly change the way most people play the game.

 

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 07:17 (Reply to #3)
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lanierb wrote:

I6_Hitman wrote:
it sucks its not visible in game and April seems kinda too long to wait...

 

More Details:

• You will have a unique CSR visible per playlist. 
• Your highest CSR across all playlists will be promoted in the player profile on Halo Waypoint. 
• CSR uses familiar 1-50 scale. 
• When CSR launches, everyone will start with a fresh rating.

I read this as your rank is going to be visible in game.  April is too long, but I think people probably don't realize how HUGE this is.  The way I read it all playlists will now have visible rank. I think it is going to vastly change the way most people play the game.

 

 

That's a pretty long time there after release.

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 07:18 (Reply to #4)
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lanierb wrote:

I6_Hitman wrote:
it sucks its not visible in game and April seems kinda too long to wait...

 

More Details:

• You will have a unique CSR visible per playlist. 
• Your highest CSR across all playlists will be promoted in the player profile on Halo Waypoint. 
• CSR uses familiar 1-50 scale. 
• When CSR launches, everyone will start with a fresh rating.

I read this as your rank is going to be visible in game.  April is too long, but I think people probably don't realize how HUGE this is.  The way I read it all playlists will now have visible rank. I think it is going to vastly change the way most people play the game.

The below quote in what concerns me:

Quote:
We have been working closely with several internal teams on optimizing the ranking system, and working to integrate it into your Waypoint player profile, accessible on web, phone and tablet.

This still seems "iffy" to me on if CSR will be visible (to player and others) in-game. I just feel like 343 is wording statements in a way that allow us to assume things will happen, but in actuality all of this may only be visible on Waypoint. 

In short, I don't trust them...

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 07:28 (Reply to #5)
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DarthTabasco wrote:

lanierb wrote:

I6_Hitman wrote:
it sucks its not visible in game and April seems kinda too long to wait...

 

More Details:

• You will have a unique CSR visible per playlist. 
• Your highest CSR across all playlists will be promoted in the player profile on Halo Waypoint. 
• CSR uses familiar 1-50 scale. 
• When CSR launches, everyone will start with a fresh rating.

I read this as your rank is going to be visible in game.  April is too long, but I think people probably don't realize how HUGE this is.  The way I read it all playlists will now have visible rank. I think it is going to vastly change the way most people play the game.

The below quote in what concerns me:

Quote:
We have been working closely with several internal teams on optimizing the ranking system, and working to integrate it into your Waypoint player profile, accessible on web, phone and tablet.

This still seems "iffy" to me on if CSR will be visible (to player and others) in-game. I just feel like 343 is wording statements in a way that allow us to assume things will happen, but in actuality all of this may only be visible on Waypoint. 

In short, I don't trust them...

 

And here's the reason why:

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 08:25 (Reply to #6)
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Dixon_Tufar]</p><p>[quote=DarthTabasco]</p><p>[quote=lanierb wrote:

I6_Hitman wrote:
it sucks its not visible in game and April seems kinda p>

 

And here's the reason why:

Does this mean it won't be visible in game to ME or it won't be visible in game to other people?

It's going to be incredibly stupid if I have to leave H4 to hop over to waypoint to check my CSR or if I have to have my phone handy to pull up an app or something to see my score. - Raider30

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 09:02 (Reply to #7)
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Raider30]</p><p>[quote=Dixon_Tufar]</p><p>[quote=DarthTabasco wrote:

lanierb wrote:

I6_Hitman wrote:
it sucks its not visible in game and April seems kinda p>

 

And here's the reason why:

Does this mean it won't be visible in game to ME or it won't be visible in game to other people?

It's going to be incredibly stupid if I have to leave H4 to hop over to waypoint to check my CSR or if I have to have my phone handy to pull up an app or something to see my score. - Raider30

 

Won't be visible, period, I assume.   You've got to pull up Waypoint or your phone to see it.

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 10:00 (Reply to #8)
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I6_Hitman wrote:

it sucks its not visible in game and April seems kinda too long to wait...

 

this.  it's BS.

No one is going to go hunting through your waypoint to see your score.  The only reason to have a score, to me, is to show it off in game.  If you're not doing that, who cares if you can see it?  It would still adjust in the background to keep your matches on the correct level.

Also, April?  And I'll bet mid to late April.  They are really fucking this launch up.

 

edit:  HA, tha forums are crashed:

https://forums.halowaypoint.com

Wed, 01/23/2013 - 22:46
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*sigh* griffball, a lot of fluff, and no mention of multi-team.  Guess I'll get my cqc, hammer, and sword commendations and be done with it.

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 02:47
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Not in the bulletin, but 343 currently has no plans to implement theater into campaign or spartan ops, via bsangel's twitter.  I would post a link but i'm on my phone and it's a pain.  

 

tl/dr - I'm lazy

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 05:09 (Reply to #11)
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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

Not in the bulletin, but 343 currently has no plans to implement theater into campaign or spartan ops, via bsangel's twitter.  I would post a link but i'm on my phone and it's a pain.  

 

tl/dr - I'm lazy

I will check this out.

and here it is:

We don't currently have plans to bring Theater into Halo 4's Campaign and Spartan Ops. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Jessica Shea (@bsangel)

https://twitter.com/bsangel/status/294291861135306752

What a bunch of crap.
 

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 06:53
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I can see theater for MP, but Is theater for Campaign and Spartan Ops something you guys really want? 

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 10:27 (Reply to #13)
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YEM wrote:

I can see theater for MP, but Is theater for Campaign and Spartan Ops something you guys really want? 

Those that would use theater in campaign and SOPS are probably in the minority, but that was a very useful tool in previous versions of the game.  From funny to amazing moments in campaign runs and SOPS missions to tips, tricks, and guides, having theater would allow those to be clipped and filmed.  Even without rendering, one could upload to file share and have friends download to view or capture and upload to Youtube or have a friend do so, but after the fact.    Now the only option is a capture card and a Youtube account and have that card up and running full time as to not miss anything. 

Btw, based on what I have seen to date from 343, there will never be a rendering capability so those that want to "show" clips will have to use the file share/XBOX download or get a capture card and "cap" the clips and films.  Hauppauge and Elgato must be licking their lips right now.

 

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 07:05
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Never used theater for campaign of FF in reach, but many people did.
Thu, 01/24/2013 - 08:04
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Another major disappointment not having visible ranks. This will be just as pointless as BPR was in Reach. Oh and 3 months? Seriously?

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 08:12
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My lip is dragging on the floor. Why did I even wait to read that last night?  :)

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 08:14
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BTW , visible ranks was never hinted to be visible in game. The web based CSR was the only possibility.

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 08:32
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yeah, it was always said that it wouldn't be visible in game.

i don't get it, but whatever. my guess is this will be a hard lesson for them to learn.

 

no campaign or SO theater!?!

there's a good way to stop everyone from promoting your game. H5 comes with a real pistol so you can shoot 343 in the foot.

thier trigger finger will be to tired to do it themselves by then.

 

i don't play grifball, but it's cool that it's in the rotation. there are a lot of people that really enjoy it.

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 08:36
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Man, I am pretty excited for Gears of War Judgement.

The Halo ship is currently being steered by too many people. We have too many cooks in the kitchen. More analogies of why H4 is good but not great. When you have one of the largest studios, it boggles my mind it would take this long to implement these kind of fixes. And, yes, make no mistake about it, these are fixes. Things that should have been there from launch. No way should they ever be considered afterthoughts.

Admittedly I have a grand time playng the game, but when those I want to play with don't care to because of problems or lack of desire, it bothers me and it affects me. If the ranks aren't going to be visible, don't waste your time. Work on quality maps instead. Whole point of a ranking system is to see it in game. 

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 09:26
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I know CSR has been previously mentioned as not being visible in-game, but I (and almost every other Halo player) was holding out hope it would be in-game. It's not that I have any delusions that I'm good enough for a 50, but it was the good times I miss, playing with friends and us trying to rank-up that I miss.

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 09:41
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I think this is the compromise.  343 is trying to keep rank anxiety down by keeping the actual rank number hidden, unless you want to go out of your way to see it.  They're intending to split the population more evenly between ranked and unranked with this move.

Thu, 01/24/2013 - 09:45
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For me, the only solution to some of these nagging problems is to just keep on playing Customs with friends. As I've said before, SpOps and six more maps will keep me going for quite awhile. I am very upset at the theatre problems. I managed to get a funny REACH campaign video frontpaged on Waypoint and that was very pleasing. It would not be reasonably possible now. I am not even expecting repaired multiplayer films or rendering anymore. While I am not planning on crucifying 343i I am not feeling the same good vibes I had before the game came out. 

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LOL!!  Waypoint forums are not available now.  Wonder why.

Sorry Shadow.  Didn't see your last post.  You beat me to it.

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I know I voiced my doubts before the game released, but I truly was hoping I would be wrong. I am ok with some glitches because glitches can get fixed, but the overall total of everything that is missing, broken, left out, misworded, or just late only proves to me what a fool I have been having hope. CSR in April, well if you think it will be any sooner then the 29th or 30th of April you are on crack. I can deal with it being visible on Waypoin, but honestly at this point wtf is it taking so long if it is not going to be visible in game, the quoted comment from BS Angel is directly opposite of what is posted on the bullentin, THAT SHE FREAKING WROTE..

This is the crap that is driving me insane. I can tell you why it is taking so long, because the studio is working on H5 and of the 200 or so people that are/were there to work on H4 I bet you are around 20-30 left to work on the steaming giant pile of shitastic fail we are left playing. I mean the waypoint app does not work on Apple phones, Android phones or even god damn MS phones.

 

Listen I know I have been a giant pisser and moaner a lot recently about this game and I am sorry for that, but I was only able to make one game purchase this winter and I went with the game that I thought would keep the people I mainly play with around the longest and like Hop said, I can and do still have a good time when I am playing, but that is when my friends are on and right now I am lucky to find that happenign once a week, maybe. My group mainly prefers to play against other MM people, customs is ok for a bit, but it is like having a sports team and having practices all the time and not going out against another team, it gets old really fast. Most nights I am left to play with randoms in MM and that just drives me insane. I have played with these people for over 5 years now and we just know how to communicate and play Halo with each other.

 

Now we find out that some of the things that have been in the game for multiple version is not even going to make it in this game and basically drops a deuce in the face of some of its biggest supporters (Deep I mean you buddy, sorry you stuff is not making the cut). How am I as a long time fan supposed to have any trust in anything 343 says they are going to do for this game or future games.

Basically I am screwed and I have to hope I can somehow scrounge together enough money (no LAN for me this year) to get the next Xbox and Bungie's next game. I mean yeah this is all assuming that both are releasing this year. But it's the only thing I have left to look forward to. At this point maybe I am just kiding myself.

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Lbsutke wrote:
but that is when my friends are on and right now I am lucky to find that happenign once a week, maybe.

I don't have this issue cos whenever I feel like playing Halo, LB is usually around.

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I never use Waypoint. Not going to start now. A rank I can't see in game, to me, is completely pointless. And I hate grifball. 

@ Deep I know you're not into MM, but I am. I don't like playing against friends more than once a week. I do it twice a week on clan nights, but prefer MM against strangers. I prefer 4 v 4, with strangers on the other team. So for you, the "answer" is "play customs", but for me that doesn't work. :(

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zombiekitten wrote:

I never use Waypoint. Not going to start now. A rank I can't see in game, to me, is completely pointless. And I hate grifball. 

@ Deep I know you're not into MM, but I am. I don't like playing against friends more than once a week. I do it twice a week on clan nights, but prefer MM against strangers. I prefer 4 v 4, with strangers on the other team. So for you, the "answer" is "play customs", but for me that doesn't work. :(

I agree if it isn't in game ranks than it is pointless. In a world of social media you think they would figure out that people like to share things whether it's video, ranks, stats, ect. We love to share.

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agree about Customs.  Fun occasionally for goofing off, but it's like practicing all of the time with nothing really counting.

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Dang LB, I see how much you really hate Sparhawk...cheeky

 

I hear ya though.  I like this game alot, and would like it alot better if just a few minor things were fixed.  Instead, we get half of the update about how she likes to camp around corners.  Maybe that's her way of saying that the BS is a great weapon and is going to stay...

 

 

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Ghost92 wrote:

Dang LB, I see how much you really hate Sparhawk...cheeky

 

I hear ya though.  I like this game alot, and would like it alot better if just a few minor things were fixed.  Instead, we get half of the update about how she likes to camp around corners.  Maybe that's her way of saying that the BS is a great weapon and is going to stay...

 

 

 

It's almost like there should be two bulletins released, one for the gernal public, and one for folks that actually give a shit about the title.

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