Well i got the Clio Cup and Mx-5 test tomorrow, but im usually on from 6pm GMT until midnight ish if that helps, ive spoken to Church too so i'll be happy if you just want to leave it to him save putting you out.
No worries dude. Maybe monday evening sometime then. Feel fre to take church up on his offer too. It never hurts to get input from dfferent people. We all aproach racing differently, so it's really a matter of helping you learn the basics. We can have you going a lot faster in pretty short order. It's when you start trying to shave tenths of a second when things get more difficult & simply require more time in the seat.
Kepp racing in our lobbies. We expect mistakes from the newer guys, & give you a little extra slack in return. Just keep driving & eventually things will start to make more sense.
In the meantime, try to concentrate on drivng & being as smooth as possible with your inputs. Work on driving at a "comfortable" pace for you. If you'll do that & focus on consistency instead of speed, then the speed will come of it's own accord with practice.
Ok cool, Max has given me a few tips, but hes very busy atm with MPR and tunes etc so i dont like pestering him.
I think im gonna start with a slow car and get the times as you say as consistent as possible
Your not pestering me at all. Glad to help as we all are.
As Cotter says its all about driving smooth and within your own pace, once you have mastered that you will find your lap times will drop. Personally, i think your trying too much, just concentrate on hitting your apex's at your own speed and not mine or any of the front runners. If you hit every apex you can then work on braking later and carrying more speed into the corner, until then just go at your own pace and be patient.
I took what you said on board last night, and shock horror (actually to my major surprise) my lap times did start tumbling, i even found myself more consistent while racing than when hot lapping (cant work that one out). Dont think i caused more than 1 avoidable accident all night either.
did say i would o this before but almost certain i really need to have some time with someone who knows what tricks there are. my times have been getting worse recently and need to get back in the game. would appreciate any tips sessions help anyone can give. feel free to pm me with details i am on EURO time and luckily have some time off work this week so i'll be around most of the time if anyone ants to give me a driving lesson lol
I'll be on cotter, i'll get you a f/r request sent out.
Snoop, im clearly no expert, but from following you (alot) last night in the mazdas, you seem to be getting on the power really early, dont remember many corners where your back end didnt kick out as soon as the car started turning. Thats just my 2 pennies though
I'll be on cotter, i'll get you a f/r request sent out.
Snoop, im clearly no expert, but from following you (alot) last night in the mazdas, you seem to be getting on the power really early, dont remember many corners where your back end didnt kick out as soon as the car started turning. Thats just my 2 pennies though
That may be true mate but i have no speed out of the corners, my gear changes are sloppy and i basically just cant keep up. and the reason the back end didnt come out was i slowed so much going in i needed to get what power i could getting back out, either that or im just trying to run with the faster guys. To no success may i add
I'll be on cotter, i'll get you a f/r request sent out.
Snoop, im clearly no expert, but from following you (alot) last night in the mazdas, you seem to be getting on the power really early, dont remember many corners where your back end didnt kick out as soon as the car started turning. Thats just my 2 pennies though
That may be true mate but i have no speed out of the corners, my gear changes are sloppy and i basically just cant keep up. and the reason the back end didnt come out was i slowed so much going in i needed to get what power i could getting back out, either that or im just trying to run with the faster guys. To no success may i add
Its just practice Snoop. Concentrate on your race and not running at the front of the pack. The Mazda's are a good car to practice with. Concentrate on hitting your apex's, if you hit them right you get the power on mid corner. Start off slow and build the speed up. Dont try to be the fastest, try to be consistant. If the faster guys are say hitting a 1:05 a lap try to consistantly hit a 1:07, you will find then the times will start to come down a tenth at a time. If you push too hard you will miss your apex and go wide which is what you were doing last night when i followed you, but for a while you were holding your line and keeping me behind you.
Yep, i was trying really hard to get within 2 seconds (mostly) of Max, gave up after he told me i was trying too hard (see post 4 or 5 above) and i ended up being within 1ish seconds mostly last night. Also, ive tried practicing on 1 track with 1 car and trying every corner in multiple ways. Turn 1 at Atlanta had me stumped, then i tried hitting the turn and brake at the same time, downshifted twice and it shaved over a second off my lap and i did it every time without fail, and i really aint very good.
If you see me on man, gimme a shout, im more than willing to practice with you, we seem fairly well matched yesterday
Roger that. Snoop & pizzy, I will get some space cleared on my friends list & send you both a FR when I get home this afternoon (evening for you).
Looking forward to doing some teaching.
One more thing...If you guys haven't watched the videos in this thread. It's a video series from I-racing, but all of the same concepts still apply. give them a look before todays session if you get a chance.
Also, i have watched all the videos in the thread, and even made notes to remind myself. The last video (the old one with the driving school) was excellent i thought.
As we have had a few new guys join the club recently i wanted to offer my services to the race school. So if i can help in anyway to improve your driving to bring your lap times down or help with running in traffic then send me a message to arrange a day and time.
This is not just for the new members, this is open to everyone. So if you need help on a particular track or corner, or just want to find those few extra seconds then send me a message.
I'm currently lapping Silverstone for the BTCC in October. But my lap times (1.36) are falling way short of the previously mentioned times (1.28) for the course. I've tried several cars: Ford Focus RS, VW Golf GTi, BMW 135i and the Audi A4. All have been modified to operate within the rules and regulations of the competition i.e. 350 BHP, racing brakes, etc. And all have been tuned with mixed results.
I'm really struggling to perfect the tuning side of things. Actually, I'm really struggling to even understand the tuning side of things. Toe in/out, camber, castor... the list goes on and on. Anyway, I digress, I need some basic pointers for tuning -- mainly to improve handling. After I'm happy with that side of things I'll be more adventurous with tuning.
So the main areas I'd like some advice in are:
Silverstone tips.
Basic tuning tips and advice.
Best upgrades to use for something like the aforementioned BTCC on here.
I'm currently lapping Silverstone for the BTCC in October. But my lap times (1.36) are falling way short of the previously mentioned times (1.28) for the course. I've tried several cars: Ford Focus RS, VW Golf GTi, BMW 135i and the Audi A4. All have been modified to operate within the rules and regulations of the competition i.e. 350 BHP, racing brakes, etc. And all have been tuned with mixed results.
I'm really struggling to perfect the tuning side of things. Actually, I'm really struggling to even understand the tuning side of things. Toe in/out, camber, castor... the list goes on and on. Anyway, I digress, I need some basic pointers for tuning -- mainly to improve handling. After I'm happy with that side of things I'll be more adventurous with tuning.
So the main areas I'd like some advice in are:
Silverstone tips.
Basic tuning tips and advice.
Best upgrades to use for something like the aforementioned BTCC on here.
Sorry, but i wasnt around Friday evening. Now that you are on my FL i will catch up with you.
Send me your tunes over so i can have a look at them to see if you need any tips, but we will work on both.
Well i got the Clio Cup and Mx-5 test tomorrow, but im usually on from 6pm GMT until midnight ish if that helps, ive spoken to Church too so i'll be happy if you just want to leave it to him save putting you out.
No worries dude. Maybe monday evening sometime then. Feel fre to take church up on his offer too. It never hurts to get input from dfferent people. We all aproach racing differently, so it's really a matter of helping you learn the basics. We can have you going a lot faster in pretty short order. It's when you start trying to shave tenths of a second when things get more difficult & simply require more time in the seat.
Kepp racing in our lobbies. We expect mistakes from the newer guys, & give you a little extra slack in return. Just keep driving & eventually things will start to make more sense.
In the meantime, try to concentrate on drivng & being as smooth as possible with your inputs. Work on driving at a "comfortable" pace for you. If you'll do that & focus on consistency instead of speed, then the speed will come of it's own accord with practice.
Ok cool, Max has given me a few tips, but hes very busy atm with MPR and tunes etc so i dont like pestering him.
I think im gonna start with a slow car and get the times as you say as consistent as possible
Your not pestering me at all. Glad to help as we all are.
As Cotter says its all about driving smooth and within your own pace, once you have mastered that you will find your lap times will drop. Personally, i think your trying too much, just concentrate on hitting your apex's at your own speed and not mine or any of the front runners. If you hit every apex you can then work on braking later and carrying more speed into the corner, until then just go at your own pace and be patient.
I took what you said on board last night, and shock horror (actually to my major surprise) my lap times did start tumbling, i even found myself more consistent while racing than when hot lapping (cant work that one out). Dont think i caused more than 1 avoidable accident all night either.
did say i would o this before but almost certain i really need to have some time with someone who knows what tricks there are. my times have been getting worse recently and need to get back in the game. would appreciate any tips sessions help anyone can give. feel free to pm me with details i am on EURO time and luckily have some time off work this week so i'll be around most of the time if anyone ants to give me a driving lesson lol
I'm going to try & be on tomorrow around 9-9:30 ish gmt. to do a session with pizzy if he's around. you're also welcome if you'd like to join.
I definitely need some pointers as well. My lead foot gets me into trouble.
How about tomorrow evening?
I can try and hop on for your session with Pizzy and whoever else, or if the evening is better I can probably do that.
I'll be on cotter, i'll get you a f/r request sent out.
Snoop, im clearly no expert, but from following you (alot) last night in the mazdas, you seem to be getting on the power really early, dont remember many corners where your back end didnt kick out as soon as the car started turning. Thats just my 2 pennies though
That may be true mate but i have no speed out of the corners, my gear changes are sloppy and i basically just cant keep up. and the reason the back end didnt come out was i slowed so much going in i needed to get what power i could getting back out, either that or im just trying to run with the faster guys. To no success may i add
Its just practice Snoop. Concentrate on your race and not running at the front of the pack. The Mazda's are a good car to practice with. Concentrate on hitting your apex's, if you hit them right you get the power on mid corner. Start off slow and build the speed up. Dont try to be the fastest, try to be consistant. If the faster guys are say hitting a 1:05 a lap try to consistantly hit a 1:07, you will find then the times will start to come down a tenth at a time. If you push too hard you will miss your apex and go wide which is what you were doing last night when i followed you, but for a while you were holding your line and keeping me behind you.
Practice. Practice. Practice!
Yep, i was trying really hard to get within 2 seconds (mostly) of Max, gave up after he told me i was trying too hard (see post 4 or 5 above) and i ended up being within 1ish seconds mostly last night. Also, ive tried practicing on 1 track with 1 car and trying every corner in multiple ways. Turn 1 at Atlanta had me stumped, then i tried hitting the turn and brake at the same time, downshifted twice and it shaved over a second off my lap and i did it every time without fail, and i really aint very good.
If you see me on man, gimme a shout, im more than willing to practice with you, we seem fairly well matched yesterday
Well i hope to be on at some point tonight with you and jcotter. depends if i need to babysit the darts team lol
sure dude. I'f you're going to be around for the session with Pissy & snoop, join on in. It'll be around 4pm EST
I will deffinately be on, but the Missus leaves for work at 9pm GMT so if i aint answering try again at about 10 past
Roger that. Snoop & pizzy, I will get some space cleared on my friends list & send you both a FR when I get home this afternoon (evening for you).
Looking forward to doing some teaching.
One more thing...If you guys haven't watched the videos in this thread. It's a video series from I-racing, but all of the same concepts still apply. give them a look before todays session if you get a chance.
One more thing guys. For today's session, lets use a gen 3 MX5 Miata equipped with the folowing parts...
Race Tires
Max tire width
Race brakes.
I already sent you a requst cotter, its pending.
Also, i have watched all the videos in the thread, and even made notes to remind myself. The last video (the old one with the driving school) was excellent i thought.
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Well i'm ready :) if i'm not around apologies, but if i do manage to get back in time i will join you (hopefully latest just after you start)
as long as globals are finished that should be fine dude
we can always have our session after the race if need be. Whenever is most convenient. Back to work I go now.
Yep that's no problem.
Sorry, couldn't make it today. Something unexpected came up.
how about this evening some time bro? I've got no plans as far as I know? if not, just let me know when you have some time & we'll make it happen.
cheers for last night bro, looks like if i wanna do what you said i'll have to totally adjust my style lol
As we have had a few new guys join the club recently i wanted to offer my services to the race school. So if i can help in anyway to improve your driving to bring your lap times down or help with running in traffic then send me a message to arrange a day and time.
This is not just for the new members, this is open to everyone. So if you need help on a particular track or corner, or just want to find those few extra seconds then send me a message.
Thanks for the link.
I'm currently lapping Silverstone for the BTCC in October. But my lap times (1.36) are falling way short of the previously mentioned times (1.28) for the course. I've tried several cars: Ford Focus RS, VW Golf GTi, BMW 135i and the Audi A4. All have been modified to operate within the rules and regulations of the competition i.e. 350 BHP, racing brakes, etc. And all have been tuned with mixed results.
I'm really struggling to perfect the tuning side of things. Actually, I'm really struggling to even understand the tuning side of things. Toe in/out, camber, castor... the list goes on and on. Anyway, I digress, I need some basic pointers for tuning -- mainly to improve handling. After I'm happy with that side of things I'll be more adventurous with tuning.
So the main areas I'd like some advice in are:
Sorry, but i wasnt around Friday evening. Now that you are on my FL i will catch up with you.
Send me your tunes over so i can have a look at them to see if you need any tips, but we will work on both.