Halo 4 after the next gens launch?

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Double T wrote:

Halo can't compete now, so I think they need to delete the new crap and bring back old school matchmaking social/ranked lists.  That's what kept me playing.

I wish you guys, that think like this, could have what you want. I really do. I just don't think you are ever going to capture that perfect Halo, that you see in your head, ever again. It's an impression of what you had, that you liked so much. Kind of like certain treats kids love when they are young and then gag over when they get older. Other Halo fans do not want the old Halo, so right out of the blocks, not all Halo lovers are on the same page.

343i has to make a game that sells to the largest applicable demographic and then hang on to the hardcore fans as long as possible via MM, DLC and episodic content. At this point I am mostly hoping 343i just comes out with campaign and episodic content. Trying to compete in the multiplayer venues on XB1 seems doomed to fail. Maybe 343i will break the multiplayer portion out and sell it separately. Maybe get a contractor to do it.

I'm not a vanilla halo guy though.  I don't mind armor abilities (aside from jetpack breaking maps...ugh).

What has diminished halo is the lack of social and competitive population.  Reach had arena and social.  Though the arena was really only slayer, it was still there.  343i should have taken arena and ran with it, tweaking the formula for objective games.  but they didn't.  They abandoned the competitive aspect of halo.  So it's only social now.

CSR is a sham when JIP drops someone 2 "ranks", and still went very positive in a game.  But the formula does not factor in percentage of play time, only top 2 players per team.

I could have VERY easily tweaked the arena formula for a team objective playlist.  I even submitted info to Bungie and 343i back in the day.  They never had a rating for objective games.  That's sad to me.  The idea behind the Arena was fantastic.  An onyx player would play amongst other onyx players (45-50 in H3).  The gold peeps played other gold peeps (40-44), and so on and so forth.  It was pretty awesome.

Now you have me, playing against "lower" CSR people, and getting hatemail for whooping on them while trying to achieve a 50 CSR in SWAT.  [img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1270345_621698634...  I've had a 48 in SWAT 5x now, and have been promptly dropped to a 46 5x as well after a JIP.  The pic was the immediate game after a 2 CSR drop.

There are lots of things that NEED fixed.  I can deal with Armor Abilities.  I can't deal with a company completely ignoring a major portion of the population who kept the franchise a household "name", and refused to play all of the Call of Duty games.  Then they copied a large portion of Call of Duty stuff, and many people "abandoned ship" because CoD does it better.

You are probably right though, I'm probably never going to be happy with what 343i releases.  They said "trust us", and I did and got taken on empty promises and expectations that were left unmet.