So, the weapons are balanced?

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#1 Thu, 09/26/2013 - 16:28
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So, the weapons are balanced?

Then why can't you kill a person with ONE magazine from a boltshot in standard/non-charged shots?  It takes 11 single shots to kill someone with single bolts, a mag holds 10.  this isn't like a real weapon where you can load 10+1 in the chamber...

 

Discuss.

Thu, 09/26/2013 - 16:40
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Why are you using the bolt shot? Lol

Thu, 09/26/2013 - 17:16
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Boring!

Hey! It might be balanced if you personally could only use the Boltshot while people like me got the BR. I like that idea. ;)

Thu, 09/26/2013 - 17:20
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Every time I try the boltshot, I fail miserably. But you're right. That doesn't make sense.

Speaking of which... Why can you unload half a clip on an AR into an enemy, only to have them walk up to you and kill you by punching you? Why does it do more damage to punch somebody than to unload a fully automatic assault rifle on them at point-blank range?

The AR seems really dinky and underpowered to me. Especially in Campaign on higher difficulty levels, when it seems like you are shooting enemies with a pellet gun. The SAW feels more like a machine gun ought to feel to me. But I guess if you want realism, Halo is not the right game.

Thu, 09/26/2013 - 17:38
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I use typical will switch to a boltshot sometimes to try to kill people. You CANNOT kill someone with it without reloading or meleeing.  That's not balanced.

Fri, 09/27/2013 - 07:16
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The Boltshot is not a pew-pew weapon like the Magnum. The Boltshot is CQC pocket shotty for those that enjoy lurking around corners for unsuspecting peeps that forget H4 allows people to put a one-shot kill CQC weapon in their loadout. 

All that being said, I am surprised (but not really) to hear you have to reload to get a kill if you don't use a charged shot. Do you have to reload if you hit with a partial charge and then try to finish up with single shots? Meaning the person wasn't close enough to be killed by the charged, but left weak enough to finish off.

Fri, 09/27/2013 - 12:04 (Reply to #6)
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DarthTabasco wrote:

The Boltshot is not a pew-pew weapon like the Magnum. The Boltshot is CQC pocket shotty for those that enjoy lurking around corners for unsuspecting peeps that forget H4 allows people to put a one-shot kill CQC weapon in their loadout. 

All that being said, I am surprised (but not really) to hear you have to reload to get a kill if you don't use a charged shot. Do you have to reload if you hit with a partial charge and then try to finish up with single shots? Meaning the person wasn't close enough to be killed by the charged, but left weak enough to finish off.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. It is VERY inconsistent and the distance varies from player to player dependent upon ping rates I believe.

 

I have hit people just outside of melee range and killed them, or I've hit them and it doesn't even phase them.

 

 

Interestingly enough, the plasma pistol on single fire kills someone quicker through pulse fire.

Fri, 09/27/2013 - 12:34
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Fri, 09/27/2013 - 13:12
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Eh.  Its about as balanced as its going to get.  The only times I use the Boltshot, not in the charged mode, is if I run out of ammo and get into a tight spot.  Then, I'm typically trying to get that last headshot.

 

The Boltshot should never have been in the game in the first place.  Actual balance would be nuking it from orbit.

Fri, 09/27/2013 - 22:24 (Reply to #9)
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True. I use it if I'm out of BR which happens a lot.  It's frustrating that you cannot kill someone with it semiauto without melee.  I try not to melee, so it sucks.

 

Maybe I should ask 343i why. :)

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