My wheel is dead!

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#1 Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:14
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My wheel is dead!

My Fanatec 911 Turbo S is no longer powers up. Its been giving a signs of a slow death for a while. I actually did send it to Fanatec last year for repair, They claimed that they changed something but it really never works quite right. It would randomly loose power and disconnect (during the race). Some times will refuse to power up. But few hours later would work like a charm.

I was away from my gaming for a while recovering from my surgery and few days ago decided to power it up again. Nope will not do. I guess that mean no playing till I get a new wheel. Now I am thinking ok CSR or Elite? I am not a hardcore racer but do like good things. Just not sure I can justify extra $230 for Elite.

 

On a top of it I seam to be having trouble accessing Fanatec website.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 11:03
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I know how you feel my wheel broke down some months ago...fell off the desk straight on the wheel knocking the mechanism to pieces.

 

 I am going for the csr wheel basically just like you i am not the type of person that is a hardcore racer altho i own mostly race games...but forza is the only game i use the wheel on so the elite being around 500 euros is a bit too much for me. So going for the value xxl pack of the csr.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 11:48
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I already own the original Club sports pedals as they were part of the original package I bought in 2010. The Elite will only ship at the end of October according to the website.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 12:19
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i need to buy it all..thats why i was looking for the csr wheel value pack which is the wheel pedals and 2 shifters.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 12:30
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see I still not convinced I want a shifter. I start using manual transition more and more. In fact, my brand new hardly ever used Rseat rig has a nice shifter mount! And yet I been using the shift pedals on the wheel itself. And both csr and csr e have much nicer shifter pedals then Turbo S I might just keep doing that. I this think that Fanatec shifter is a bit toysh and will not give you the real feel you would go for.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 12:50
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I have the CSR Shifters and to be honest they are rubbish, the sequential is okay...after all it just goes forwards and backwards but the h gate is dire to be honest. The wheel is great, and while not flawless is the best at the money.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 13:34
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which wheel are you referring to? csr or csr elite

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 18:58
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CSR mate, looking at the Elite at the moment, I need a second wheel to avoid being without one, my CSR is still grand but it gets worked awful hard and nothng lasts forever. Tempted by the Thrustmaster T500 but by the time the Irish government take their pound of flesh it is really out my price range. But yes the CSR, I have been very happy with it and it seems to be very reliable, like I say mine gets used everyday and often for hours at a time and I have never seen it get warm let alone hot. It really comes to life on the PC but is grand on Xbox. It does gave the usual audio issues, but I found if the USB is connected to the PC while you use it on Forza that buzz they have goes away with the standard headset.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 19:09
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the problem with the T500 is thats its PS3 and PC only no?

 

The shifters i wont use either. Never used the shifter on my old crappy wheel always. So it was always the shift pedals on the wheel aswell. but Hey its in the value set so lol...are there any good 3rd party shifters available for the fanatec? i know for the logitech there is

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 21:40
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there are some very good shifters that will work independently from the wheel but it only true for ps. They would just work as independent usb device. This kind of arrangement is unnatural for game consoles. And yes T500 is PC/PS3 only. 

 

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 07:39
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its weird actually that there are no 3rd party shifters for fanatec since its a pretty hi end wheel imo

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 08:39
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They have been promising a decent shifter for ages but who knows when it will be out. I happen to know there will be an adaptor  coming soon so the TH8RS will work on Fanatec wheels, so that will solve that problem.

Yes the T500 is PC only, I do a lot of PC racing so one wheel for PC and one for Xbox would lesson the workload on each...mind like I said its too expensive at the moment. Do like the Fanatec GT3 elite package though, €260 with the elite pedals, PC only again but an extra set of pedals could be a good move too...

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 10:01 (Reply to #12)
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KnightofRedemption wrote:

I happen to know there will be an adaptor  coming soon so the TH8RS will work on Fanatec wheels, so that will solve that problem.

Hmm... I wonder who might be coming out with such a thing??? :p

 

There's also this for the more budget minded (set to release soon): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN7DLGnVUl4

 

My "heart of hearts" advice on the shifters. Don't waste your time with the current Fanatec ones given their price. They are not well made. Don't let the "metal" knob on top fool you. The insides are identical to the old version.

If you are budget minded, I'd recommend waiting for my G27 shifter adapter and purchasing one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-G27-Shifter-BRAND-NEW-/271024297113?pt=... That's a brand new G27 shifter, $26 shipped from the US.

 

The Fanatec shifters are $59.95 BEFORE shipping which is around $17-$20.  You do the math. ;)

 

 

 

 

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 12:21 (Reply to #13)
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mrbasherman wrote:

KnightofRedemption wrote:

I happen to know there will be an adaptor  coming soon so the TH8RS will work on Fanatec wheels, so that will solve that problem.

Hmm... I wonder who might be coming out with such a thing??? :p

 

There's also this for the more budget minded (set to release soon): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN7DLGnVUl4

 

My "heart of hearts" advice on the shifters. Don't waste your time with the current Fanatec ones given their price. They are not well made. Don't let the "metal" knob on top fool you. The insides are identical to the old version.

If you are budget minded, I'd recommend waiting for my G27 shifter adapter and purchasing one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-G27-Shifter-BRAND-NEW-/271024297113?pt=... That's a brand new G27 shifter, $26 shipped from the US.

 

The Fanatec shifters are $59.95 BEFORE shipping which is around $17-$20.  You do the math. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

Well well, fancy you droppng by just when I happened to hint at this LOL

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 11:02 (Reply to #14)
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KnightofRedemption wrote:
Do like the Fanatec GT3 elite package though, €260 with the elite pedals, PC only again but an extra set of pedals could be a good move too...

I do like my GT3RS.  55  Essentially a "stripped down" GT2 wheel.  Ok, maybe stripped is a bad word, as it's essentially the same wheel without xBox compatibility and unlighted buttons.  The full alcantara wheel is a dream.  And I love the fact is doesn't "look" like a toy.  The CSR & CSR-E supposively provide a bit better FFB feel, the GT3 is tough to beat for the money. 

I took the money I saved on the GT3RS over the CSW and purchased the Bob Earl VRC rig, DSD button box and Thrustmaster TH8RS shifter.  Haven't regretted it a single day.  151

Now I just need to get the office finished up so I can build the monitor stand w/ button box mount and get my triples set up finally (once I figure out what causes the rFactor crash).

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 11:04 (Reply to #15)
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whoops, double post.  167

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 12:16
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Hmm I had asumed they had basically the same internals as the CRS and the FFB would feel the same. I would notice if it was not as good as my CSR...Do you have the version 1 or two?

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 13:06 (Reply to #17)
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KnightofRedemption wrote:

Hmm I had asumed they had basically the same internals as the CRS and the FFB would feel the same. I would notice if it was not as good as my CSR...Do you have the version 1 or two?

The latest one.  Realistically, the CSR is just the next evolution stage of the Porsche wheels (PTS/GT3RS/GT2), w/o the Porsche licensing.  I believe the guts are very, very similar.....just different packaging.  The CSR-E however is where the internal changes really begin.

This could be very well why the CSR hasn't seen the failure rates of the CSR-E.  It's the next evolutionary step of the wheel they've been producing for several years (and have had time to work the bugs out w/ feedback from the community). 

I was hoping us PNWers were going to be able get together with all the different wheels we are using for a big comparison test.  We would've had the bases covered, but now that Craig has sold off his CSR, getting a direct comparison of the CSR to the GT3RS/GT2 (along with the Turbo S, CSW and a couple others) will be a little tougher.

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 13:16
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The CSR Elite actually use the same exact motors as those in all of the other Fanatec wheels. The failure rate of the motors in the single motor wheels seems to be significantly lower than that of the CSR Elite wheels.

I believe the apparently higher failure rate of the CSR Elite motors is due to improper implementation of dual motors.

 

 

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 13:36
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sounds like elite does have some quality issues. I was tempted to get it but now I have reservations as I do not want  to deal with a failed wheel again. Especially after paying $500 + for it.

Now I am leaning towards just CSR. It it will be much easier on a valet and hopefully I do not need to wait a month to get it.

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 14:44
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Yes that is what is keeping me on the fence...I would like to step up to the next level but the only two options are either a, just out my price range or b, questionable reliability...

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 19:17
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 I owned a CSR for almost a year, and have had the CSR Elite since December 2011. The CSR worked flawlessly. The Elite, on the other hand, failed twice due to overheating, once in March 2012, and the replacement failed in May 2012. I am on my third Elite. The CSR definitely is proven, whereas the Elite is not. I now do my primary racing (iRacing, rFactor, GT5, Project CARS and F1 2011) on a T500RS with Clubsport pedals and THR8S sequential shifter, and I leave the Elite for Forza and Dirt 2 & Dirt 3, with my second set of Clubsport pedals and CSR H shifter.

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 08:17
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i saw fanatec got the elite body in black with exchangable wheelrim. price is insane on those products :O

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 11:30 (Reply to #23)
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jdluxe wrote:

i saw fanatec got the elite body in black with exchangable wheelrim. price is insane on those products :O

 

That is the Clubsport wheel (CSW), not the Elite.  The Elite and the Clubsport wheel are very similar with regard to the internals and the wheel base, but they also have big differences including compatibility, color of base, nature of exchangeable rims, availability of additional rims and cost.

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 11:48
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I will see if fanatec will RMA my wheel again. Even if I do order new one I still think they should fix my Turbo S so that I have a replacement if I will have problems again. Just do not remember if they have 2 or 3 year warranty on the wheels.

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 13:18 (Reply to #25)
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MetalHead wrote:

I will see if fanatec will RMA my wheel again. Even if I do order new one I still think they should fix my Turbo S so that I have a replacement if I will have problems again. Just do not remember if they have 2 or 3 year warranty on the wheels.

Fanatec has a 2 year warranty on their wheels.

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