"Jena 6"

Durty

Shared on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 18:48

To start off with, I am not a racist, I do not believe that white people are better than black people, hispanic people, purple people eaters or that any race is in any way better than any other...though I have to admitt I have a thing for Italian men and women, but I digress. 

"The Jena 6"  I am sure most of you have heard about this issue.  6 teenagers gang up and beat a single teenager.  Pretty basic charges to me, they at least deserve to be charged with assault and battery...if not attempted murder.  Let's think about this, did the 6 teenagers beating up on the single teenager think that they were going to leave butterflies and roses all over him?   Or do you think they intended upon hurting the kid....quite severly I would think since they had it 6 to 1.  Pretty logical to reason that they were trying to hurt him.  Legally, it doesn't matter if the kid was able to get up and go to a party the next night, just because you attmept to do something and don't succeed, doesn't mean you didn't try. 

Now that we have that settled, lets move on to the big 'race' issue.  If it had been 6 WHITE kids beating up a BLACK kid, they would have been convicted of attempted murder already and most deffinetly it would have the term 'hate crime' associated with it,  Deffinition of hate crime so no one gets confused.  "Hate crimes differ from conventional crime because they are not directed simply at an individual, but are meant to cause fear and intimidation in an entire group or class of people."  A few monthsbefore the Jena 6 incident, three white kids hung three nooses in what was called the "white tree" after some black kids sat under it and people got justifiably upset over the nooses.   No one ended up being charged with anything, though they very well could have been charged with some sort of federal hate crime, seeing as a noose isn't all that black friendly and generally  will piss people off.  The three kids who hung the nooses up recieved 3 days of ISS each, and the tree was cut down for fire wood.  Granted, not that harsh of a peanalty but that is what they got, they did their punishment and moved on.  Now, the kid who was beat up had nothing to do with the nooses, he wasn't one of the three.  The six kids who beat up the kid weren't the ones sitting under the tree, so people can, in my opinion, take that whole incident off the table...but if they don't, the way I figure it just gives a bigger reason for the six black kids to be charged with a hate crime.  When six black kids beat up a single white kid, you can pretty much take it to mean that they are trying to "cause fear and intimidation in an entire group or class of people"....in this case the white kids they went to school with. 

Now we have thousands of black people decending on a little town, trying to make sure that these six black kids don't go away  for a crime that they all admitt they committed, someone please tell me how this makes any sense?  If I committ a crime, am I not held responsible for it?  According to our nations laws it doesn't matter if someone made me mad a couple months ago; if I decide to get a group of people together and beat up someone who is kind of like the person who made me mad, well then I would rightfully be charged with a crime, be convicted, and would then have to serve my sentance.  I don't think I would have a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton in my corner saying that the person who originally pissed me off should be to blame for my actions MONTHS later. 

Not trying to make anyone mad, but it's just how I feel.  I welcome your comments, your thumbs up or down, just make sure you keep it civil.

~Durty 

Comments

MyHeadsaTarget's picture
Submitted by MyHeadsaTarget on Sat, 09/22/2007 - 23:24
There was a school yard fight like this at a college not far from me,only difference is no one stepped in and stopped the beating of the unconscious kid.He died.The nooses in the tree was a stupid prank.The kids were told they could sit anywhere they wanted to.Is racism alive and well?Sure but this was just a bunch of dumb kids on both sides and things went too far.A noose in a tree can be seen as offensive,a physical assault that could have led to death is a crime.To me there is a big difference between what I would like to see happen to an asshole and what I could, in reality,condone.
sicrik's picture
Submitted by sicrik on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 19:04
this is why I am not prejudice, I fucking hate EVERYONE!!!
SoupNazzi's picture
Submitted by SoupNazzi on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 19:09
I've gotta disagree with you on this... there is a whole more to this story than just the simple beating that took place. I don't condone what they did, but I think there were motivating or mitigating factors to the overall actions.
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Submitted by OrzoKhan on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 19:13
I guess I don't know much about the facts in this case, but in America Racism only goes one way. Which is what makes it racism, if they made it against the law to report wether a felon was of a particular race maybe we would be getting somewhere, but the mere fact of talking about racism only fuels the fire. To truly get rid of racism we simply have to stop talking about it.
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Submitted by rabbmasterflash on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 20:14
yeah I am with Soup on this one Check out Daddy's blog a day or two ago for more information: http://www.2old2play.com/Blog/Daddyfatsack_25 there is some backwards ass shit going on there
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Submitted by bm289 on Fri, 09/21/2007 - 16:28
The simple truth of the matter is that There was TONS more involved with this story than just the beating, as previously posted by someone else here. The kids should be charged with assault and battery, that much is true, however, extenuating circumstances led up to that event. You had the white only tree, the nooses, then the DA coming into the school and looking at the black kids while saying "I can end your lives with the stroke of a pen" Hatred leads to violence, so the natural conclusion of all this is that the fight broke out. Also, I know some people want to believe that if it were white kids who had beat up on these black kids they would all be in jail by now. The truth is that this could not be farther from the reality of the situation. In reality, they would be tried and slapped on the wrist with time served, community service, and expulsion. THAT is reality, but because they were black, they got anything BUT a slap on the wrist. The white kids would only do REAL time if the story made the major news outlets. I worked at a law firm as a paralegal for YEARS in Louisiana, Texas, and Florida...this was how it ALWAYS went. That is the truth. there really is a reason why minorities still cry about racism folks. Just drive through your average city and see if you can spot where the white areas end and the Black/ Hispanic / Purple People Eater areas begin.
sicrik's picture
Submitted by sicrik on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 20:38
I made sure I read up on this before I posted, just so I could make sure I had my facts straight. I understand what the other crimes were, however, MY issue is not with the other crimes, the other crimes have their own statutes and carry their own punishment...as long as the DA presses charges, which he should do. The fact that the 'Jena 6' comitted the crimes that they did is not excused by the crimes other people committed. MY issue is with people saying what these kids did is basicly okay because of what other people did. I know there is more to the story than just this incident, or even these two incidents...but do those other crimes make this one okay? As far as I was aware, vigilante type justice is still illegal in the US. Thanks for reading, keep the comments coming. :)
bm289's picture
Submitted by bm289 on Fri, 09/21/2007 - 16:32
BTW, this kind of race on race violence occurs even in urban settings like Miami and such. I grew up in Miami and believe you me, the school was most definitely divided by race. Not officially, mind you, but it was there.
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Submitted by J-Cat on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 20:38
Gernerally speaking, when someone says something like "I'm not racist/sexist/homophobic but..." my alarm goes off. I can't imagine what I would do if I was a black woman, and my son went to a school where they had unofficial "white only" trees, where people strung nooses. If that was how my community was treated. I mean the fact that there is a white only tree is unbelieveable. The school should have done something. I get that it's unofficial, but hte school must have known about this racism. Then for the nooses, you can't say "whatever they did the time" no way!!! THAT was the hate crime. You pull shit like that, and yeah: people are going to push back. Is it right to attack someone: no of course not. Keep in mind in the south: you can get still arrested and beaten for DWB (driving while black). Sorry hun: I think you are way off base with this one.
Durty's picture
Submitted by Durty on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 20:38
Yeah that was me..........forgot I was signed into his
Durty's picture
Submitted by Durty on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 20:46
J-Cat, sorry not racist. I did say that the kids who hung the nooses could have been charged with a hate crime, it was a hate crime. But what these kids did was wrong, 'white tree' or not. Every damn person in that town who committed a crime should be charged, not just these kids...but these kids shouldn't be left off the hook either.
J-Cat's picture
Submitted by J-Cat on Thu, 09/20/2007 - 21:31
No: I gotcha: I didn't say you were. Just when people say "I'm not this but..." it makes me pause...
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Submitted by ATC_1982 on Fri, 09/21/2007 - 06:21
I believe if it was white kids they would have all ready been in prison for a long time.
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Submitted by DaddyFatSack_25 on Fri, 09/21/2007 - 08:20
the kids that did the beating are all facing life in prison for a school yard fight and there were no life threatening injuries. A school yard fight ends up in life in prison? They should be punished for fighting but for life? and this is from an article I read yesterday "As racial tension grew last autumn and winter, there were race-related fights between teenagers in town. On 4 December, racial tension boiled over once more at the school when a white student, Justin Barker, was attacked by a small group of black students. He fell to the ground and hit his head on the concrete, suffering bruising and concussion. He was treated at the local hospital and released, and that same evening felt able to put in an appearance at a school function. "
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Submitted by DaddyFatSack_25 on Fri, 09/21/2007 - 08:22
@ATC some of the kids are still being held in jail till trial because of Bonds that are in upward of 200,00$
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Submitted by TDrag27 on Fri, 09/21/2007 - 08:57
It's fucking ridiculous that shit like this still goes on. You'd think that all the racist assholes that teach their kids to be racist would have died off by now...This is a fucking disgrace to this country and every one of those asshole punk kids should be punished - white or black.

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