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Children run wild on the Net: Teach them manners

by Chemterror| Published: Thursday, August 31 @ 03:32:02 EDT
How many times have we badly beaten some kids in a friendly game of Halo 2 only to hear a string of profanities, racial epithets and the like either during or after the game? It seems that some of our fellow gamers cannot communicate without swearing, name-calling and trash talking. Now, I know what you are thinking, “What’s wrong with a little swearing or trash talking after a particularly intense engagement in online multiplayer mayhem?” I agree I’ve been tempted to utter an expletive after getting killed by the same opponent several times in a row, or perhaps crouch down on the face of said opponent after returning the favor, however these should be the exception rather than the rule. After enjoying Halo 2 for over a year and a half, I’ve seen and heard just about everything, or at least come to understand the general online experience.

I’ve often wondered if some of our younger gamer friends would use the same language if we were playing at a LAN party instead of miles apart via the information superhighway. I’m not positive as to the size and strength of most members of the 2old2play community, but I would imagine most of us would have the capability of intimidating your average middle-schooler in a face-to-face confrontation. Not that I’m promoting violence against kids, but it would be pretty funny to go to a kid’s house and tell him to repeat what he said online.

It is this anonymity that makes the online arena so much fun and causes so many problems. It is very similar to the thoughts that pop into our head in public or on the job, but our better judgement kicks in and we censor ourselves. Answering our coworker’s question, “Does this make me look fat,” could end up very badly if our true thoughts were to come through. (Think Jim Carrey in Liar, Liar when his boss takes him in to the boardroom, except with a different ending) However, in the privacy of our living room we feel free to come back with whatever comment comes to mind. The same thing holds true for the adolescent set.

Although I hate to perpetuate the gamer stereotype, a lot of the online gamers are probably not the most popular kid in class and as a result probably get picked on at some time. They would love to come back to Johnny Football with a stream of profanity, but they too have the built in censor that tells them it would not be in their best interest to talk trash to a guy twice their size. Get the same kid in a team slayer or a rumble pit match or in a game site message board and all that pent up rage comes spewing forth as a stream of consciousness of swear words.

Sometimes, as I hear what has to be a 12-year-old (or younger) kid rattle off profanity after profanity, I ask myself, “Where in the world are this kid’s parents?” Some kids might have their own wing of a mansion or stay up after mom and dad are in bed, but that cannot explain all the bad behavior. I realize my upbringing might have been a little bit more conservative than some, but if my parents had caught me calling someone a *#@!*%#@!, getting my rank to go up would have been the very least of my problems. My Xbox would have been broken into a million pieces and burned, and that’s just for starters.

These kids are not going to get any better until their parents get a little more involved in what their kids are doing. First of all, this game is rated Mature, and is legally not to be sold to kids under seventeen. Now I know trying to enforce underage game sales is like trying to enforce a cell phone ban while driving, but this illustrates the lack of involvement that too many parents have. Of course, when these parents do happen to walk by the TV they might hear someone like their son on the other end using colorful phrases to describe their precious little gamer. Then they become super parent saving Timmy from the evils of video games.

On a more positive note, I actually ended up in a team slayer match on Lockout in which a father was playing with his son and his son’s friends. Now this is how online gaming should work. These guys had obviously practiced together quite a bit, and used great teamwork in soundly thumping my team and me. I could tell this parent was involved in what his kid was doing, instead of a) totally ignoring his son b) telling his son that video games would rot his brain, or c) “acting” like he was interested in his son’s hobby. Not once did these guys use any foul language, unless you count “noob” as a four-letter word. Perhaps this parent could be on to something, spending time with your kids doing something you both can enjoy.

Now this is where the manners part comes in to play. We “older” gamers can influence our kids for starters; schooling them in online multiplayer strategy and etiquette. Just as our parents taught us about sportsmanship in baseball, football and soccer, we can teach our kids and their friends about virtual sportsmanship. However, in order to teach we must first remember to practice what we preach. As I’ve already said, I understand the urge to let something colorful fly when you’re really mad, but that shouldn’t be every time we get killed in a no-shields rocket match. If we model good behavior, our kids will pick up on it much quicker than the “do what I say, not what I do” school of thought.

What is going to happen if we do not start changing their behavior? Children will grow up with a high lack of professional communication skills. College professors and high school teachers already gripe about students using the same grammar and punctuation in reports as they do when they are instant messaging their friends. “i thought beowulf was funny LOL :) do U know what I mean,” will probably not earn high marks in English class.

I taught science for two years and I can confirm that IM grammar is alive in well in the writing of our young people. Consider how this correlates to other Internet behaviors. Little Timmy grows up, gets a job, has a teleconference, calls a new hire a ****ing noob, ends up working at a fast food restaurant. Now that is an extreme case, but not entirely unlikely. I know I am not the only one who has caught myself driving a little bit faster after playing a racing game for a couple of hours, trying to find the fastest lines between my house and the grocery store. That is one of the goals of video game makers - to transport gamers to another world. Eventually little Timmy has a harder time separating real life from game life and forgets to censor himself. Use your imagination, I’m sure you can think of an equally entertaining scenario involving corporate world Timmy and a lack of restraint.

So, what is a responsible socially conscious gamer to do? First, ease up on the language. Younger kids emulate what they hear, whether on the TV, radio, or on their headsets. You really do not want to be the reason some kid asks his mommy what **** means. Second, practice good sportsmanship. If your team is clearly better than the team you’re matched up against, win, but don’t be a jerk about it. We’ve all been on the other end, and it’s not fun.

There’s no need to add insult to injury. Why not offer to play some customs and give them some tips if they’re cool guys or girls. If they’re sore losers, press B in the lobby instead of getting in a yelling match with a kid that doesn’t even have a driver’s license. An increased level of maturity is what interested me in 2old2play to begin with; don’t act like the gamers we’re supposed to be different than. Third, if you’ve got kids or relatives that game, take them under your wing and teach them the art of being a good player. Think Big Brothers/Big Sisters but in terms of gaming. I don’t think you can use it as community service on your resume, but it’s worth a shot.

I don’t think I’m being unrealistic in my suggestions. I know we cannot stop global warming, world hunger or even bird flu by being a good gamer, but at least we can make online gaming a friendlier place. As more mature gamers we have a little bit of responsibility in setting acceptable behaviors in the online community. So let’s clean up our act and help mold the future of online gaming.


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awesome stuff (Score: 1)
Posted By FFDragonwarrior on Thursday, August 31 @ 05:30:09 EDT
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100% agree.. wow if i hear one more prepubecent snot call me a "!#$ cheating ass noob" and continue to cry and gurgitate profanity im going to shoot my TV (yeah that will happen)

personally i will not touch Halo or Halo 2 multiplayer, at the time Halo 2 came out i was managing a Gamestop, after explaining to uncareing apathetic parents that it was rated "M" for a reason and seeing the snot bubbles coming out of the grubby kids noses i vowed to never touch that game.. (god im serious! we might get mad at these kids but you should see thier dam parents HOLY S***!)

heres an example:

mom walks up with glazed eyes and GTA: SA in hand son is 6-15 i explain that there is cursing, blood, drug use, men picking up hookers having sex with them and then brutally murdering then and chopping there head off and that it is a VERY VERY mature game... response? "yep thats what he likes..." WTF? i know you can raise your kid however you want but cmon ppl!

eh stupid parents make stupid kids..


You nailed it. (Score: 1)
Posted By Angelito on Thursday, August 31 @ 07:45:52 EDT
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Yup agree Stupid parents make for stupid kids. Worst than that is Parents that say that adults should not play video games and let their kids play adult video games. Go figure.





Well done. (Score: 1)
Posted By Angelito on Thursday, August 31 @ 07:51:33 EDT
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I agree. We need to clean up our act. We have all been guilty of throwing an insult back to a kid. If that was our son or nefiew or son of a friend would we have sent back an insult.
I left the Halo2 world because of what it had done to me. What was the most exciting online game I had ever played, turned me into a vicious stupid gamer. I wont go into any further. SO I will say again; I agree, we need to set the example, we can't just trow back at the kids or blame them. If their parents are not watching them, they are playing with us, so why not take the role you mention and try to get a better gamming comunity 5 years from now.
Really nice article.
I dig it.


Untitled (Score: 1)
Posted By Caesar on Thursday, August 31 @ 08:54:22 EDT
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awesome damn write up, i agree 100%





Its not just up to us though... (Score: 1)
Posted By Gatsu on Thursday, August 31 @ 09:34:02 EDT
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Its up to the kids parents to. Until a certain age the parents are stuck with taking responsibility for a kids actions.

There will always be stupid people. Which means stupid parents...and from them, stupid children. And the cycle of stupid continues.

We can clean up our acts all we want, but Timmies will ALWAYS be there somewhere.



Great Idea, but it is an effort of futility.. (Score: 1)
Posted By lbsutke on Thursday, August 31 @ 11:06:04 EDT
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The majority of the time I am running in H2 with the same people. After the end of the game the majority of the time we say good game, or nice game, blah blah blah..We are usually met with f you noob, You got owned bitch or yeah it would have been a good game if you jus didnt gotz pwned (i did the typo's on purpose). My one encounter with these asshats will not suddenly change their minds or attitudes about sportsmanship. Birds of a feather, flock together...is how I believe the saying goes. And since they are already down the path of "The ways of Timmie" I will choose to save my precious use of oxeygen for future endevours.

Should I stoop to their level of fucktardness...No. Should I have to be the parent online that they obviously do not have at home...No. Will I give up hope that the human race has a possibility of evolving...Well it is looking bleaker and bleaker, so I will not hold my breath.

I will continue saying good game, or nice game and so will my team mates, but like my subject post says, it will be an effort of futility..

When my kids (not born yet) start to play online, sports, or have an activity with competition. I will instill good sportsmanship as a core value, but I will also tell them to not expect the same thing in return.



Exactly! (Score: 1)
Posted By jonny12gauge on Thursday, August 31 @ 11:51:40 EDT
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You nailed that one perfectly doodirock! In my opinion, the things I hear the most on H2 are racial remarks. I don't know why those terms are so popular. If it ever got too bad in a game I would just quit and start another one. It's not worth the aggrevation of listening to those profanities, especially from little kids. That is one of the best parts of this site! I am so glad to have joined up with this site a few weeks ago. It has totally changed my H2 gaming experience. Soon enough I'll have enough people on my friends list that I can avoid matchmaking all-together!!



Awesome Article (Score: 1)
Posted By Armedzero on Thursday, August 31 @ 13:51:31 EDT
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I agree with having an adult with their kids. Sometimes I'll have my nephewes will come over and they would laugh at me getting owned when playing with my fellow 2old2play brethren. particuly with my brother combatpanther or with Todd the Barber or our favorite Mike James. It's cool with Adults but DOWN WITH TIMMIES



Indeed... (Score: 1)
Posted By SuMizzle on Friday, September 01 @ 09:07:35 EDT
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As an "over 25 gamer", I would love to see Microsoft incorporate some kind of age based match-making system in Live. I don't want to play with little kids. While it is very enjoyable to kick the shit outta someone less experienced in gaming, I would much rather play with my generation. But let's not forget...there as many ignorant adults online as there are punk ass lil kids (18 and under).


awesome (Score: 1)
Posted By kobeandchris on Friday, September 01 @ 14:48:03 EDT
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That is one of the best things I have heard for an idea for ms to do. Keep coming up with ideas like that and ill vote you for president





LET US NOT FORGET (Score: 1)
Posted By uncreativename42 on Wednesday, September 06 @ 13:02:18 EDT
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Let us not forget that the player preference system was a FAN FREAKINGTASTIC idea!!! I use the thing religiously in the hopes that circles will start to form where I don’t have to deal with that crap…and so I’ll be way ahead in not dealing with said crap when halo3 comes out. My problem is that I don’t see MORE people using this thing and MORE people with 2 star ratings. What do you think will happen to that 12 year old when he realizes that no one WANTS to play with him because he’s a bast@$#. He might actually think twice about it or he might just go play with his other bast@$# friends which is absolutely fine with me. SO this is my campaign USE YOUR PLAYER PREFERANCE SYSTEM figure out how it works it’s quick and easy and makes online gaming so much better.

P.S. props on the article it’s great and very right on I used to work at a EB games as well and I can’t tell you how many times a parent came in with that same scenario. Thank god my boss was so cool because I used to turn to him Semi-loudly say “tom I can’t sell her this game and he would come over and ask why not and I always used to say you know why I just can’t sell her this game you can I cant”



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