Joplin, Missouri

SoupNazzi

Shared on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 10:04

What is it about these recent twisters that is killing so many?  I have no knowledge about housing in Missouri, Alabama, etc...  Do the majority of homes not have basements in these areas?

I only ask this because it blows my mind that there are so many fatalities (especially in Joplin which had 20+ minutes warning) from these tornadoes.

I know from personal experience that basements can save lives when tornadoes strike.

June 3rd, 1980.  Grand Island, Nebraska.  The city I was living in was hit by SEVEN tornadoes in a three hour period.  One F4, three F3s, one F2, and two F1s.  Millions of dollars in damage, but only 5 fatalities and 200 injuries.

Our house was directly hit.  The houses in front of us, behind us, and on both sides of us lost their roofs.  Our house somehow kept its, though I'd like to think it was my father's quick thinking of opening up all the windows and doors, which allowed ours to keep its roof.  Somehow the tornado "passed" through our house instead of rolling over it and tearing the roof off.  The inside of our house was covered in insulation from our neighbor's homes.

One of our neighbor's roofs was in our backyard.  We had numerous pieces of homes driven through the roof of our home.  We found our dog kennel 3-4 blocks away.

We hid downstairs underneath the stairs the entire time...  sounded like freight train rolling through our house. 

Houses were leveled in our neighborhood.  But the only fatality from the tornado that hit our neighborhood was a woman driving to a friends house.  I'd say 99% of the people that heard the warning sirens were in their basement.

Also, the neighborhoods in Grand Island aren't as densely packed as many modern towns and cities are.  Most homes in Grand Island sit on a 1/2 acre of land, whereas newer homes are packed into smaller plots of 1/4 of an acre or less now a days.

Also, Joplin's tornado was an F5.  The worst in Grand Island was an F4.

Anyways, I don't know why the fatalities are so much more severe in these past few months.  I do know that I miss having a basement (Texas does not have basements for the majority)... and I do know that I appreciate that we had one 31 years ago.  Oh, and in the words of one of my neighbors...  "Don't send Jimmy, send Beer" (in reference to President Carter coming to visit the damage).  Of course, President Obama can stick to playing ping-pong and toasting the Queen while the band plays on.

Joplin, Missouri - After & Before photo:

 

Comments

tarbs's picture
Submitted by tarbs on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 11:33
the day the tornado hit Joplin was graduation day. 400+ families out celebrating their child's big day when it hit. graduation ceremonies had just ended when the storm rolled in. They had warning of the storm and the potential for a tornado. as I understand it, the F5 formed in Joplin and hit hard. The hospital said they had 5 minutes to get patients to safety before they were hit. A lot of people were caught out in it. basement homes cost more to build around here because of all the rock. plus alot of the homes are old. there are other factors too.
Saithme's picture
Submitted by Saithme on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:10
I haven't had a direct hit by a tornado, but I had one come within two blocks of my house. We had all kinds of other people's house parts in our yard including an electrical cover plate embedded in a tree. I don't know about Missouri, but we don't have a lot of basements in the South. Perhaps because of a higher water table. I spent some time in New England and they told me that all the houses had basements there because they had to set the foundations deeper than the ground would freeze in winter. I had always heard about opening doors and windows during a tornado, but yesterday I head on the radio that now they recommend closing all the doors and windows. The theory is that the wind flowing over a roof and through a house treats it like an airplane wing and creates lift. Not allowing air to flow through the house reduces the lift generated.
tarbs's picture
Submitted by tarbs on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 13:57
they have also said that by open the windows it allows the pressure to equalize reducing the chance of the roof being ripped off. basically, when it comes to tornadoes, nobody knows shit. it's a crap shoot because tornadoes do some weird things that no one can explain. another small town near me got hit yesterday. one of the pictures from there shows a house with no roof but all the furniture and wall hangings are left as they were. it was like a doll house.
TheDastard's picture
Submitted by TheDastard on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 14:51
The windows and doors thing was the old conventional wisdom but has since been refuted, as has crouching in the southwest corner of the basement. Basically, if it's your time, you're fucked.
SoupNazzi's picture
Submitted by SoupNazzi on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 15:21
I agree tarbs... Tornadoes are truly unpredictable. Of the 7 that hit G.I., they said that at least two of them were anti-cyclonic, which is very rare in the norther hemisphere. Something like 99% of all tornadoes in the north are cyclonic.
tarbs's picture
Submitted by tarbs on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 15:48
one of the weather guys here said this one was rotating backwards. that plus the size made it really rare. and destructive. don't know if it rotating the other way makes any more destructive or not but, it sure beat the hell out of Joplin.

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