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Will 360 Warranty Extension Come at the Expense of a Price Drop?

by S Holmes| Published: Thursday, July 05 @ 22:52:46 EDT

With news today of Microsoft's admission of widespread defects acknowledgment of an "unacceptable number of repairs" for the Xbox 360, current 360 owners can finally rest assured knowing that if (when?) their 360 sees red, the problem will be rectified. This news may also be the spurt of confidence that many waiting buyers needed who have refused to purchase the system due to the hardware problems.

But what about the potentially millions of gamers who are waiting for the much rumored price drop that has been speculated for almost one year? As part of the warranty extension announcement, Microsoft noted it will take a “$1.05 billion to $1.15 billion pre-tax charge to earnings for the quarter ended June 30, 2007 for anticipated costs under its current and enhanced Xbox 360 policies.” This brings us, surprisingly enough, to Sony.

360 Price Cut

Late rumors today circulating the net suggest that Sony is poised to announce a $100 price drop for the Playstation 3 at next week's E3. If there's been one resounding criticism of the PS3 (and there's certainly been plenty), it's that the console simply costs too much. A quick visit to most any video game forum or blog confirms that there are countless gamers who are willing to purchase the PS3 once the price drops. Sony knows this, but so does Microsoft.

Upon hearing this rumor, many wishful gamers are predicting a counter-price drop by Microsoft to maintain the apparent price advantage the 360 has over the PS3. But are they being realistic? Can Microsoft afford to incur the astounding loss they announced today AND cut the 360's price (which is already incurring a loss per unit)? What about the $50,000,000 spent on exclusive episodic content for Grand Theft Auto IV? What about the unknown amounts of money some have suggested Microsoft paid to bring previous Sony exclusives to the 360?

As part of the warranty extension announcement, Microsoft's Robbie Bach stated "[o]ur goal has been to have Xbox profitable in the coming fiscal year 2008 . . . We don't think this changes that in any way." Fair enough, but surely a price drop would make such a goal that much more difficult to achieve. In fact, Bach's statement could still be true as the actual console could turn a profit per unit (meaning no price drop) while the Xbox division overall incurs losses. I know it's a play on words, and I'm sure that's not what he meant, but one never knows when shareholder confidence is at stake.

Obviously, as with all major corporate decisions, nothing is as simple as just choosing one option or the other. And I'm well aware of the deep corporate assets Microsoft has as a whole. But, at the end of the day, can anyone realistically believe that taking a $1 billion loss is not going to have at least some impact on when the inevitable price cut occurs? I imagine we'll never know, but if the rumors of Sony's price drop next week turn out to be true, I wouldn't hold my breath for a retaliation from Microsoft - something which seemed very reasonable just hours ago.


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They've already dropped the price (Score: 1)
Posted By TANK on Thursday, July 05 @ 22:57:52 EDT
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The Elite will come out in Japan at $389.99 USD. That's a drop of almost $100 off the US MSRP.

But even with the warranty expense, they'll no doubt save enough when the new cooler chips come out in manufacturing and those chips should be so prone to making the system fail. So if they drop the price and those units are less than 3% defective rate, they won't be loosing money on those systems.





thats not a price drop then... (Score: 1)
Posted By doodirock on Thursday, July 05 @ 23:04:52 EDT
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That's not a drop in price, that's a launch price for another country. Until we actually see a drop in the current pricing structure for the 360 in current available markets, it doesn't mean Xbox has become any cheaper for North America IMO.





Price drop shmice drop (Score: 1)
Posted By BrokenDesign on Friday, July 06 @ 09:49:46 EDT
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You know, I think us gamers would be satisfied if there was no price drop but they finally roll out the 65nm process chips so that the problems will [hopefully] be *fixed*. Stop doing these crap patches that are ineffective and address the problem already so I can get my system exchanged for a new one and stop feeling sheer terror that the next time I want to play it's going to blow up.



Cust. Serv. Still sucks (Score: 1)
Posted By metalian on Friday, July 06 @ 10:46:36 EDT
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I've been trying since the 8th of last month just to get the return package without any luck! Ten agents and supervisors later and they still haven't shipped me anything! Over six hours of voice prompts, listening to crappy music on hold, and talking with people who are powerless to remedy my problem, all to no avail! THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER!



Public companies are short sighted (Score: 1)
Posted By Enosh on Friday, July 06 @ 10:58:16 EDT
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As I understand it, Microsoft is going to take the US$1B charge in FY 2007... Which will allow Microsoft to, with the help of Halo 3, post a profit for the games division in 2008 even with a price drop.

Regardless of whether or not Sony moves on their price I think we will see some movement with the 360 this year. What I expect is that the Elite will drop to $400, the Pro will drop to $300-350 and the core will drop to $200-250. Their goal from the beginning was to push a SKU down to $200 as fast as possible to get into the "mommy purchase" range quickly.

It is going to be very interesting to see what happens at E3 this year.

On a side note, I wonder if this announcement and the re-engineering that has gone into the Xbox 360 to prevent the problem in the future explains why there is a mini-shortage right now. I've gone weeks without seeing a unit on the shelf at the local Target, but there's always more than enough PS3's to go around...


Untitled (Score: 1)
Posted By SHOWOFF_A16 on Friday, July 06 @ 14:24:18 EDT
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I was at Target yesterday and there was a full cabinet of PS3's (15 or so) to One Elite 360 and 4 or 5 Pro's.





Golf clap! (Score: 1)
Posted By HeReCoMeSdAbOoM on Friday, July 06 @ 11:32:52 EDT
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I applaud MS for stepping up to the plate and finally giving 360 owners some reassurance. They can still make improvements with their replacement process but I have to thank them for extending this warranty. I wouldn't be getting a new one if mine failed and was past the warranty.



Good job. (Score: 1)
Posted By PositiveG on Saturday, July 07 @ 11:38:32 EDT
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Expect a glut of used systems once the new units come out.
I know I'll be selling mine. Nice to have a better warantee, but loosing your gaming rig for 8 weeks doesn't cut it. Now if we can still get Futureshop to honour their extended warantee (the seem to want to fluff it onto M$'s now).




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