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What Will It Take For You To Buy A PlayStation 3?

by codemonkey| Published: Friday, July 20 @ 14:14:27 EDT

It's easy to write a PlayStation 3 hate article, everyone on the Net has posted at least ten in the last six to eight months. But, what would it take for you to buy a PlayStation 3, for real?

The reasons for not buying a PlayStation 3 usually land into three categories (or maybe a few more):

I hate Sony
It's too expensive
No games of interest

For those that hate Sony with passion... you're lost to us. The other two concerns can be nailed in due time, right?

Looking at some of the titles for the holiday season we see games like Warhawk, Stranglehold, NASCAR 08 along with your typical sports games. Assassin's Creed is going to be a big title this holiday along with GTA IV.

True enough, many of these games are also coming out on the Xbox 360. What about Metal Gear Solid 4? We're assuming, as of now, this is a PlayStation 3 exclusive title coming in Spring '08.

Are there any games you won't be able to live without? Or games you would rather play on a PlayStation 3 than Xbox 360?

Speaking from our demographic here at 2old2play.com asking a gamer if they're ready to buy a PS3 usually incites an argument because we're so very Xbox 360-centric (based on past media coverage with OXM and Bungie.net).

But, really, what would it take you, a highly populated Xbox 360 community, to buy into the Sony experience?

Barring silly ads and bad press, it's all about the games and the machine, right? Perhaps, it's all about the price?

What price would you pay for the Sony PlayStation 3? Microsoft has said, with history backing them up, the mass market price is around USD $199.99. Not even Nintendo has hit this price point yet, but they're eating alive the competition in terms of unit sales.

Assuming the PlayStation 3 won't see USD $199.99 for some years to come, at what point would you consider a PS3 purchase? Would you spend $399.99 on the console today or wait for more games to arrive?

It seems each month gamers consider the console a little more, but we're not sure how many commit and put down the green for the unit. As fall, in North America, draws closer we'll see more titles arrive for every console. As the trailers are presented and the games arrive, the PS3 should be more tempting each quarter but when will hardcore gamers and casual gamers decide to invest in the product?

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Three things... (Score: 1)

Posted By stang503421 on Friday, July 20 @ 14:18:46 EDT
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1. A better online community. Xbox live makes it fun to play mp - if PS3 had something that worked as well and my friends played on it, I'd probably get one.
2. A wider variety of games. Yes, you said that was one category, but it's true.
3. A price I can afford. I'd probably pay $299 for one, if the online community was better.

Truth be told, I like the graphics on the PS3, they look great - probably better than on my 360. But without that online community, the "live"-type experience, the PS3 is nothing more than a psp to me.

Untitled (Score: 1)

Posted By Aonon on Friday, July 20 @ 14:24:09 EDT
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I am game loyal and Sony stopped catereing to my gaming needs. The price and the lack of any real online community is not an issue for me. I tend towards realistic FPS and open ended/sandbox games. Sony doesn't offer any titles like that that I can't play on the Xbox. Big Little Planet though could really change my mind.

heheh (Score: 1)

Posted By codemonkey on Friday, July 20 @ 14:27:16 EDT
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little big planet ;-)

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Posted By Aonon on Friday, July 20 @ 15:18:56 EDT
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Little Big Horn Planet Delivery Service.

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Posted By Jennifer on Friday, July 20 @ 14:26:51 EDT
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If Sony would have kept Grand Theft Auto only for their console it would have prompted me to buy one. However now that I can get pretty much anything I want for 360 as well I don't feel the urge. They need more games and better games that are for their console only to get people like me interested. I have owned all the consoles available everytime except this one and the price point didn't have a huge amount to do with it. I will give you your ungodly amount of money if you create a need to have it mode within me. So far they have been lacking in anything to get me excited.

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Posted By HadOne2Many on Monday, July 23 @ 15:42:18 EDT
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I feel the same way, word for word. GTA4 would have done it for me. Sony just needs to give me a reason and I'm there. I want to buy one, really I do.

What will it take for me to buy a PS3? (Score: 1)

Posted By BrokenDesign on Friday, July 20 @ 14:28:30 EDT
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My wife's approval.....

Yep, it's the missus. (Score: 1)

Posted By luciuskell on Monday, July 23 @ 22:26:21 EDT
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I got the impression that most of the gamers here are, like me, also bogged by other major expenses like mortgage, car payments, and non-toy kid essentials. i was lucky the wife allowed me to save up and buy an Xbox360, i don't think i can push my luck to ask her if i could get a PS3 as well. i don't she would allow me to get a toy that cost over AU$300 to acquire, and even then it'll take A LOT of convincing.

it's just too expensive. i live in Australia and the packages for both have a gap of around AU$300-400, depending on what extras you get. yes, i know it's got Blu-Ray, but do you honestly think i can rent Blu-ray movies easily where i live? nope, i can't. besides, DVD is good enough for me.

i'd like to see how much the PS3 would actually cost if they took out Blu-Ray. drop the price, queue up MGS4, God of War III, and 3 other good exclusives, and then we'll talk.

Sony gets money from me... (Score: 1)

Posted By BalekFekete on Friday, July 20 @ 14:33:27 EDT
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when, or if, Blu-Ray wins the format war.

I'm holding off on going to the next generation media for movies until there is a clear cut winner, and prices for the HD media comes down to the ~$20/movie price point.

B.

Better price, better games, better online (Score: 1)

Posted By TANK on Friday, July 20 @ 14:40:09 EDT
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There's not $599 worth of good games to play on the machine for one. And sure they get a jewel every once in a while like MGS4. But I was never a big MGS fan anyway so that's not really drawing me. They have nothing in their lineup this year that interests me that I'm not getting on the 360. And for those few jewels like MGS4, i can't justify an extra $200 over the cost of a 360 to play them. The overall cost per minute to game on the PS3 is way higher because it would hardly get used for the amount of money spent.

Then there's the whole online thing, it's just barely there. It's there enough for them to say they have it. I don't like that every game has it's own way of connecting up, the friends list integration is minimal and messaging integration is almost non existent. They need to put a lot of work into the online piece because it's just checkbox feature list right now against Live. it's not really completely integrated or consistent across games.

Anyway the bottlom line is the system still costs too much for what it offers when it's stacked up against the competition.

True, I am a Sony hater... (Score: 1)

Posted By Jedi_Kez on Friday, July 20 @ 14:42:28 EDT
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... but I would not say I am a lost cause.

If Sony were to totally clean house with the jokers they have running the gaming division and get people in there who are not arrogant, shady, and liars, then I may change my mind.

The PS3 from a technically standpoint is pretty amazing, so it's not really the hardware I hate. I hate the people behind the hardware, and therefor will not support their salaries by buying their products.

And those that love the tech leave (Score: 1)

Posted By codemonkey on Friday, July 20 @ 15:10:32 EDT
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Those that believe in the PS3 as a game console leave Sony... I can think of one in particular...the guy that made the console that dominated the industry for 10 years. He's gone off to 'retire' (Kutaragi). What's left for high up's that understand the needs of gamers?

the truth is... (Score: 1)

Posted By whiskey_spraggs on Friday, July 20 @ 14:49:33 EDT
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I'm a game nerd who like's technology!......SOLD!

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Posted By chking on Friday, July 20 @ 14:51:46 EDT
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In order for me to buy a PS3, the PS3 would need to give me a significantly different experience than the Xbox 360 gives me. And as far as I can tell, the only big difference between and Xbox 360 and a PS3 is that someday the PS3 might have super stellar graphics that rivals the Xbox 360. But that's a big IF and is probably a few years down the road. I don't really need or want two systems that provide the same experience. I'm actually more interested in adding the Nintendo Wii with the Wii Fit device to my entertainment center as a way to have fun and get in shape. The Wii would definitely provide a significantly different experience.

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Posted By Captiosus on Friday, July 20 @ 14:57:16 EDT
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1. A more solid online component. There's no excuse for the fact that Sony is still playing "catch up" with the XBL service that has existed since November of 2002. It is absolutely appalling that Sony did not develop a robust online component in tandem with the actual PS3 console.

2. More exclusivity. Every time Sony loses an exclusive publisher, my desire to purchase a PS3 drops. MGS4 and FF13 just don't do it for me, sorry. I grew tired of the MGS series after 2 and who cares about Final Fantasy when the bulk of the original staff who made the series great are now known as Mistwalker Studios and are developing for the X360?

The reason I wanted a PS1 and PS2 were because they had exclusive games I absolutely had to play. Not anymore. Almost all of the games which drove me to buy a PS1 or PS2 have branched out to all of the available platforms, and I really believe, barring a major sales spike, MGS4 will also end up being a timed exclusive only.

I didn't buy a PS2 to play Jak, or Ratchet & Clank, even though they were fun games, they're not exactly titles which push console sales. GT3-GT4 is probably the only first party SCE title which pushed sales of the console, but even that's become stale.

3. Price drop. 499 is too much. I don't care if it has Blu-ray. I'm not buying the console to watch Blu-ray movies. I'm buying a gaming console to game. I don't care if the console can do everything but make toast, that's not why I'm interested in it.

Give me a substantial price drop, better online (no, @home, the Sims Online wannabe doesn't count), less corporate rhetoric, and show me some reasons why I should pick up the console (meaning games I couldn't play elsewhere) and I'd buy it.

Frankly, I don't think any of those requirements will ever be met.

whats the difference (Score: 1)

Posted By farmerbs on Friday, July 20 @ 14:58:25 EDT
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I was big in xbox 360 but still purchased a wii. The wii provides a different gaming experience for the entire family. It even gets my wife to play video games. The PS3 doesn't add anything different than the 360, nor does it provide a list of games that the 360 offers. Short story is Sony is playing the same game as Madden. They think they are the big names and people will buy them because "in the day" they were the best. But that time has past and there is a new sheriff in town.

What about (Score: 1)

Posted By codemonkey on Friday, July 20 @ 15:11:26 EDT
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what about little big planet and Sony Home? Would those sell you? Not me, but some I think may buy it for those two games alone.

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Posted By cs7499alco on Friday, July 20 @ 15:23:45 EDT
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I own one only because I was able to trade in all of my old systems and games that I had. ( got the system for $200 out of pocket with Resistance) The only difference for me was that I was interested in this system becaused it has games I am interested in and the blue ray player. So at 599 I found this to be a bargin (eventhough I did not pay that much), but I also hate having a seperate component to perform each task. The xbox 360 is my main system for gaming, but I beleive enventually both systems will get equal playing time for gaming. For now though the PS3 is nothing more than a High Def DVD player.

Easy (Score: 1)

Posted By Gunz-Magilacuty on Friday, July 20 @ 15:29:49 EDT
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My 360 to break for the 4th time. Then bye to Micro$.

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Posted By AMC401AMC on Friday, July 20 @ 15:31:32 EDT
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I DONT HATE SONY BUT COME ON...WHO HAS THAT KIND OF MONEY TO BUY A GAMING SYSTEM THAT DOES LESS THAN OTHER GAME SYSTEMS THAT ARE CHEAPER.

That and Sony PS3 doesnt have many games that are any good or fun to play with others. Look at the Xbox...$400 for a premium...60 for a game.....60 to go online for a year and you have $520 into a system that will waste a shit ton of your life hours Vs. $600 for a PS3...60 for a game and then bored after 3 weeks and you have $160 more into a system that has less content and availability and wont ever support porn

Hows that for math?

"wont ever support porn" (Score: 1)

Posted By codemonkey on Friday, July 20 @ 16:07:10 EDT
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1 + 1 = Porn?

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Posted By AMC401AMC on Friday, July 20 @ 15:34:21 EDT
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Arrogant Japanese executives..

Never (Score: 1)

Posted By xxUNDERTOKERxx on Friday, July 20 @ 15:40:17 EDT
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There is no way Sony can convince me to get a PS3. When I buy consoles, it's one or the other. After all the homework I did, I chose the 360 and that's what I plan on staying with.

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Posted By SHOWOFF_A16 on Friday, July 20 @ 15:58:42 EDT
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$249 price tag so I'll have a cheap Blu-Ray player.

Seriously. I was a loyal and avid PS2 fan...that is until I played games on the original XBOX. I fell in love with the gameplay.

My PS2 had some type of early production issue with the laser and therefore it wouldn't play games like The Matrix Path of Neo so I tried to sell it to a game shop and they wouldn't even take it because it was a launch day system. I just trashed it and started buying XBOX games.

The graphics on PS3 are of equal quality to the 360 maybe even better, but that's not why I buy a system. I buy because I like the games.

The games I have played on PS3 so far are crap and I won't fork out $499 for crap. Not to mention that their online support is garbage. Next gen is online multiplayer - STANDARD.

Untitled (Score: 1)

Posted By SpecialEDsauce on Friday, July 20 @ 16:07:30 EDT
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My wifes family are not hardcore players and last gen they went through 4 PS2 systems. They are not the type of people to call in for a warranty or anything like that so they just bought a new one so that the kids had something to play when they came over. That doesn't make me think that they put their machines together well. I have heard of people calling Sony and not getting a replacement because they might of sneezed while carrying the PS2 and that voids the warranty.

I can't help but think that this is how Sony won the last console war by so much. They figured out that people most likely are just going to buy a new one because they had all the exclusives and you already had 15-20 games collecting dust because your last PS2 dies after a year.

I'll buy a PS3 when it comes down to $299 and Sony takes responsiblity for their defective unit the way Nintendo and M$ recently has.

Hmmm. . . (Score: 1)

Posted By TexasTwister55 on Friday, July 20 @ 16:18:21 EDT
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Short and sweet
1. online equal to or better than MS
2. Price tag of 3. Many more games. I don't use my console to watch movies.

Untitled (Score: 1)

Posted By rufstuf on Friday, July 20 @ 16:21:09 EDT
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Price drop and better exclusive titles or some new functionality beyond playing blu-ray movies (don't much care) and games (I'm thinking of IPTV type thing but that's a bad example since the xbox has that coming) I'm not blowing $500 on a machine which offers few games I can't already play on my 360.

When the next-gen match-up started I placed my $$ on M$ based on 3 main factors:

A) They have a TON of money to outspend Sony - something we're seeing w/ M$'s aggressive efforts to lock down exclusives or open up former Sonly only exclusives to their customer base.

B)Software - I had a feeling the differences between the next gen consoles hardware-wise would be negligible - that the 2 platforms would perform pretty similarly w/ minor differences here and there. But M$ is a software company and the consoles main purpose, playing games, plays toward their strengths better than Sony who's strength is in hardware, and not computer hardware at that, but electronics,

C)Online - Again, M$ as a computer software was more suited in my opinion to creating a strong online presence w/ good infrastructure and reliability. It didn't hurt that they had a few years worth of head start on Sony who just seemed completely behind the times when it came to online functionality. Sony's failure to recognize the direction that the industry was moving toward in this regard was a BIG sign to me that the 360 was the way to go.

When a cow jumps over the moon? (Score: 1)

Posted By Banjocut on Friday, July 20 @ 16:25:24 EDT
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It would take a collapse of the Xbox 360 to turn me over, much like what happened to Sega's Dreamcast. Thats what brought over to Xbox and they haven't given me a reason to leave.

When (Score: 1)

Posted By OrzoKhan on Friday, July 20 @ 18:19:18 EDT
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Hell freezes over!
I am so tired of Sony and their overpriced products.
Not just the PS3, but all Sony products are over priced and no better than the competition!

Untitled (Score: 1)

Posted By mythrenegade on Friday, July 20 @ 17:09:08 EDT
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If the PS3 were $299 right now I would own one.

I was planning to buy one until they announced the pricing.

I would buy Blu-Ray movies, but I won't buy a PS3 simply to get blu-ray. The games on both systems look about equal, so there is no compelling reason for the price difference. WIth the much smaller library than the 360, it really needs to be cheaper, hence the $299 point.

Joel

For me, the following (Score: 1)

Posted By T3muJin on Friday, July 20 @ 17:20:05 EDT
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I'd buy a PS3 if all the following were met:
1. The online aspect was equal to or better than LIVE.
2. The price was $399
3. They had games that were worth something.

Hey look what we have in Spring 2008!!!! Yea, really? I bet you that Spring 2008 turns into Winter 2008, or Spring 2009. We all know if we see "Spring 2008" it doesn't mean squat, but if we see "April 15, 2008", we tend to believe that more.

what would it take? (Score: 1)

Posted By BELDAR on Friday, July 20 @ 17:29:28 EDT
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Exclusive rights to Halo 3. But since that is not gonna happen..... nothing.

Just bought a PS3 (Score: 1)

Posted By sandymac on Friday, July 20 @ 17:39:33 EDT
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A combination of the following prompted me to get a PS3 sooner than later:
* I would be buying one anyway when the next Ratchet and Clank is released.
* My 360 is having hardware issues.
* The recent price drop for the full featured hardware version of the PS3.
* The news that the 60gig version would be discontinued once supplies were gone.
* It's easy to upgrade the PS3 hard drive.
* I'm starting to care less about the 360 achievements.
* My gut is that the PS3 will be a solid gaming system for about 10 years, 360 for about 6 years, and the Wii for about 5 years.
* I think Blu-Ray is going to get the better of HD-DVD in the end when it comes to movies.
* It appears you can authorize content downloaded from the PlayStation Network on more than one machine which makes me feel more secure about my downloaded purchases. (I'm going to be very upset if my 360 dies for good and there is no way to transfer games so my wife/kids can play XBL games without my gamertag being logged in all the time)

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Posted By lbsutke on Friday, July 20 @ 18:04:05 EDT
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it would take all of these happening at the same time for me to purchase one:

1. online experience just as good as xbl
2. price drop to 299 for the "top" model
3. game worthy of me putting down H2 or H3
4. blue ray actually "officially" being the HD format.
5. All the members that I game with on XBL changing over to Sony..

So basically, never going to happen.

Ditto (Score: 1)

Posted By Gorbash on Friday, July 20 @ 18:26:51 EDT
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Just what I was thinking.

easy.... (Score: 1)

Posted By TO3TAG on Friday, July 20 @ 18:33:10 EDT
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1. Price drop to or below $250
2. Game I can't resist - Doesn't have one yet that I "gotta have!"
3. cosmetic redesign- I honestly hate how it looks. I'm not down with the 'Bose Lifestyle" look. And in all honesty I'm not sure I'll buy it at $250 if it stays looking the way it is. And eventually I am going to need a blueray player so if it doesn't meet the above requirements I'll just buy a stand-alone player instead.

What'll it take? (Score: 1)

Posted By snahfu on Friday, July 20 @ 18:44:44 EDT
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1. A solid backwards compatability list.

2. Rumble on the controllers included in the console bundle.

3. $299.99

4. Uncharted turns out to be as spectacular as I hope it is.

5. 18 months to 24 months

hmmmm (Score: 1)

Posted By Nomad on Friday, July 20 @ 20:26:37 EDT
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1, for me to afford an HDTV first.
2, price drop to 299.99
3, something more exclusive than that sims looking crap, omfg I hate the sims so that definitely won't do it.

I'll probably be getting another 360, an Elite before I ever get a PS3.

I doubt I'll ever buy a PS3 (Score: 1)

Posted By RogueRedneck on Friday, July 20 @ 20:31:49 EDT
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Most games that I want to play are also out on the 360. Why should I buy another console to play a game I can already play on it?

The online community with Xbox is a huge selling point and I don't see Sony ever coming up with something comparable enough to make me consider jumping. Even if they did, if they can't deliver the games, and if my friend's aren't playing in that online community, I'm not gonna care.

The price is too much for me. I consider the 360 (despite it's failures) to be a better investment.

Put all this with the way Sony has behaved in the current generation of games and I have no desire at all to buy their product.

Exclusive games (Score: 1)

Posted By 9572AD on Friday, July 20 @ 22:01:35 EDT
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I never bought an XBox and I never will because it never had any games I wanted to play that weren't available on the PS2 and/or GameCube.

I have an XBox360 and I won't be buying a PS3 until it has games I want to play that aren't available for the 360.
...and at that price it'll have to be several games I REEEEEEEALLY want to play.

4 Bills (Score: 1)

Posted By unclebuk on Friday, July 20 @ 22:04:42 EDT
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After reading all these comments thus far, as well as countless other reviews, it seems as though the PS3 is not much more (or less) than a 360 with a Blue-ray. My 360 does the job fine, but i use it primarily for gaming; ya, I might throw in a DVD every now and again but i don't really give a rip about Blue-ray or HD-DVD until i get the other goodies to go along with, like a flat screen and a bitchin' sound system. The real gem for me is the online community. Whats better than sniping or being sniped in the face and laughing about in the post game lobby with your fellow 2o2p friends and family.
Sure, I'm not a huge fan of some of the things Sony has done in the past, but I'd buy a PS3 if the price dropped down around 4 bills, and only if the online community offered was similar (or better somehow) than XBL. And as several other members have already commented, throw in a solid base of exclusive titles that haven't been beaten to death like FF or MGS, and I'd go stand in line tomorrow.

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Posted By tracespeck on Friday, July 20 @ 23:02:32 EDT
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It's not the price itself thats the problem for me. It's that the price does not equal the value (for me personaly).

I can understand if you have an HD TV, a collection of blue-ray movies, and want to have an mp3 player in the living room, then it is a good value, cheap even.

The problem is the only thing I want is a gaming machine. And when I look at it as gaming machine there is a small selection of games (currently) that I would be interested in. The biggest sellers to me would probably be RPGs like Final Fantasy and Dragons Quest or if there were other "must play" RPGs for it that were exclusive but even then its a lot to pay.

Today I probably wouldn't want to spend over $250 on it. I imagine as the game library builds and the price drops to around $400, then maybe.

I think Sony made a mistake going with the entertainment center approach. Some features are like buying a Tivo when you don't have a TV or getting a second stereo for the same room. Useless. They just bloated the price of what is a really nice looking gaming machine.

2 cents (Score: 1)

Posted By Splynncryth on Saturday, July 21 @ 00:02:54 EDT
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The price is higher than the traditional norm. With MS bundling service with the 360, it's a bit hard for Sony to say the cash goes to running the network. If the console does manage to live up to the 10 year claim, then $600 may not be a bad value.
But the inclusion of blu ray seems like Sony is trying to force feed the tech to gamers, and prop up Sony Pictures in the process.
I don't currentlyown an HDTV, but I was planning on getting a 360 after I do which shouldn't be too far in the future. If Sony gave me a break on a TV with the unit, that would certainly influence my decision.

Make the unit hacker friendly. I might be inclined to pick it up and tinker with it then. I'm not a top notch programmer, but I wouldn't mind working with a team doing amateur development. Take that energy like you find in the PSP hacking community and channel it into something positive for the community a bit like TiVo did.

With the high price tag, would it be safe to assume the console is aimed more at adults with careers? How about some focus on games that would appeal to this audience? there are a lot of things I have come to appreciate more recently than I was able to 5-6 years ago. This does not mean make AO pornographic/ultraviolet games. Use TV as an example, there are a lot of programs that are more 'adult' in nature that are not blood baths or sex on a grand scale. It's a bit hard for me to put my finger on, but I'm sure folks with more experience with media could point some things out.

I have other little quibbles, but they are about Sony the company. their behavior has made the entire affair hard to swallow. My option of Sony will be lowered another notch if they revel they are putting rumble in the new controller after they spent all that time acting like it was unimportant, or even undesirable feature. They thought we were all dumb then, do they still think that now?

Blu-Ray Strong-Arm (Score: 1)

Posted By claws on Saturday, July 21 @ 00:28:23 EDT
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I signed up for this forum specifically to answer this issue.

I would buy a PS3 in a heart-beat if they removed the Blu-Ray. I don't like them jacking up the price just so they can force their format on me. Plus the DVD-player on my PS2 is a piece of crap, why should I believe the Blu-Ray on the PS3 will be any better.

I totally agree. (Score: 1)

Posted By luciuskell on Monday, July 23 @ 22:49:25 EDT
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...i never used my PS2 for watching movies, and i never use my 360 to watch DVDs either.

i bought the 360 because i wanted a next-gen game console, and it had great games. and comparing the price to PS3, it was a no-brainer; Xbox360 is the way to go. No, Sony, don't sell me an entertainment center; everything else you sell is comparably too expensive.

i don't contest that yeah, maybe someday i'll need to get a Blu-ray player if and when it becomes the standard. however, as was the same with DVD, i didn't buy one until they released cheap ones under $100, and the only reason i bought one (Pioneer) was because there wasn't any region locking for the model. and now that i have a DivX player, i only rent 3-5 DVDs a month.

Lower the price (Score: 1)

Posted By surakmn on Saturday, July 21 @ 00:46:57 EDT
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My kids have PS1 and PS2 and would love a PS3. Sony has historically had the best mix of games you can let your kids play and at lower prices. The PS3 looks attractive, but the price is double to triple what any game system is worth to us under the best of conditions. I'm not even going to feign interest until it's below $200.

What Will It Take For You To Buy A PlayStation 3? (Score: 1)

Posted By suntzu420 on Saturday, July 21 @ 00:51:39 EDT
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I've been a playstation fan since the PS1 came out. Had the PS2 the 2 weeks after launch. When the PS3 was coming out though, and I saw the price, granted, I was a little put off by it. Anyways, on to the real question.

1. Why take away things that "they" consider "not next-gen"? Why was the rumble left out of the new controller? Force feedback in the PS2 controller was great. I liked feeling it vibrate when playing an intense FPS or when you unleashed some awesome quickening from FF12. This was very disappointing for me. It felt as if Sony was moving away from what made them different. Granted MS was going to add this to their new controller on the 360 when it came out, but who cares?! Why wait until you have to go into litigation over a product license before you finally realize that you've made a huge mistake?

2. Why such a horrible base of launch titles? I was extremely disappointed at the launch titles for the PS3. I felt that Sony had some very big hitters that they could have brought onboard for the PS3 launch. God of War 2 being one of them. One of their highest selling games, with a highly anticipated sequel, and they bring it out on the PS2 instead of launching it on the PS3. I felt that if Sony had done more dev time on the launch titles, that this would have been a determining factor in my buying of a PS3 as well as a lot of other people.

3. Price? Well, when I first heard the PS3 was going to be coming out, I was hoping for the "premium" model to be in the 500 dollar range, at most! Finding out that a lower model was going to be offered with less features decidedly turned me away from the "value" model as well. I felt that if the PS3 had used accessories more for upgrades rather than only offering 2 models that this would have significantly changed my decision. I thought that MS did make the right choice by allowing the user to by upgrade HDs for for it along with other accessories. Again, Sony went against the grain. By doing this, the alienated their user base. You only have 2 choices. Now, only 1. If HD capacity was something that we all wanted, don't they think that we would have been willing to buy upgradeable HDs for the units if they sold them? By allowing them to do things like this, they could have saved on manufacturing costs as well as have a starting price point, that looks favorable to the average gamer and the average gamers pocket book. I felt that Sony was pushing the cost of the unit down to the gamer, which never should have been done. Granted, I understand that the company needs to make their money back on what they are developing. But like a great many of you have said, I'm a gamer, I don't care if it plays blu-ray movies! The only reason I liked blu-ray was due to capacity issues. I knew that this would allow for bigger games to be developed and put onto single discs, vs the 2 and 3 discs sets of the old days ;)

4. HDTVs. I honestly wanted to wait until I had an HDTV before I thought about buying one. I figured if I was going to experience the PS3 way Sony wanted me to experience it, that I would need an HDTV. Once the PS3 came out, it seemed that every TV that had HDMI ports on it, was having problems with the PS3 and the way the PS3 handled the HDMI signal. This was found to be because the PS3 used HDMI 1.3 standards, vs the current 1.2 implementation. So, because the PS3 uses HDMI 1.3, how hard is it going to be for me to find a new HDTV that is using the HDMI 1.3 standard? Or am I going to just have to take a giant $1700 swing and pray for the best? This was very displeasing to me in a lot of ways. Considering that at the time, i was looking at buying a Sony HDTV, but those were having problems as well. Although, to be fair, these issues were easily resolved by buying a HDMI > DVI adapter on most HDTVs. Again, this is something the average consumer shouldn't have to worry about.

Truely, what would it take for me to buy a PS3? Just have Sony be honest for once an

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Posted By Captiosus on Saturday, July 21 @ 01:09:16 EDT
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I figured if I was going to experience the PS3 way Sony wanted me to experience it, that I would need an HDTV.

Not to mention the PS3 does not include a HDMI or HD-Component Video cable out of the box. It only includes the 15 year old Yellow-Red-White AV cable. So on top of the money you'd have to spend for the console and the HDTV, you'd have to put out another 29.99-49.99 for either the component HD cable or the HDMI cable.

Another reason I'm disinterested in the PS3. Sony says they make a next gen, high definition console, price it insanely high, and then only include a 15 year old AV cable? Ludicrous.

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Posted By BoogieMan on Saturday, July 21 @ 01:32:30 EDT
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It's cool to read everyone's thoughts on the systems. Gaming has been my hobby since the atari 2600. So I guess I'm a little spoiled because I have all three next gen systems and a brand new 52 inch Hi-def t.v. I bought the set just for the new systems. But Sony has such a strong legacy that I bought it just cause it was a sony. I enjoyed my ps2 so much that the backwards compatability was enough for me to get a new ps3 since I was about to get a new ps2 for the backroom anyways.

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Posted By microdot on Saturday, July 21 @ 02:33:29 EDT
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but honestly, i dont think sony needs to do anything. the wii currently is more of a gimmick (i know, i know... but hear me out). it will die off eventually, and much sooner than the others. it also wont fill the void when the hardcore/moderate gamers start to realize that they are tired of the 400th rerun of mario. (and before i get jumped... yes, i did own one, and my son still has his, although it is now collecting large amounts of dust.)

the only real gaming systems on the market at the moment are the 360 and ps3. and microsoft is handing the business to sony on a silver platter. i loved my original xbox almost as much as i loved/love my ps2. but upon going though 2 consoles (and a scratched disc) almost immediately after release... i was a little pissed off. i sold it, and vowed never to return. 8 months later, i decided to give it one more shot. there were games out, and coming out on the 360 that i really wanted to play. 3 more consoles later. im done. forever. i sold my 360 after getting my final warranty return about 2 weeks ago.

and im surprised honestly that it hasnt been picked up, but according to even microsoft themselves, their sales are showing it. extending a warranty to 3 years is all fine and dandy, but if i cant play when i want to because my console is in for repair... or if i waste an additional $70 on another game because my original was chewed up... how much do you think i would be investing in the platform?

the public at large is already sick of the 360 and its issues, and its sales are starting to reflect that. i dont think sony needs to do anything but keep coasting along. they will sell.

but as for avg joe right now: price. i bought one on release day, but the last two weeks have shown that price is the big factor. outselling the wii and the 360 combined on amazon (as well as elsewhere) is no small feat.

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Posted By Captiosus on Saturday, July 21 @ 16:37:10 EDT
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You're clearly speaking for yourself and not for the "public at large". The X360 continues to out sell the PS3 2:1 in monthly sales figures and the staple franchise of the Xbox library, Halo, is still 2 months from release.

Handing the industry to Sony? Hardly. Microsoft got a lot of "cred" for upping their warranty and finally admitting their console has flaws. Meanwhile, Sony is off in their little corner shooting off at the mouth with corporate rhetoric that can be disputed by anyone who has paid even a little attention to the "console wars".

While Sony is off shooting at the mouth, once exclusive publishers are jumping ship and releasing titles for both consoles.. so who is handing whom the silver platter?

In my area alone, the Elite X360s are sold out at every retailer and each retailer who maintains order lists are backordered until Christmas.

I'm sorry you had such problems with your X360, but the sales numbers prove the X360 is outselling the PS3 by a margin of 2:1, and has been since release. That doesn't sound "tired" at all.

What would it take? (Score: 1)

Posted By Jansky on Saturday, July 21 @ 02:40:41 EDT
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It is just way too expensive for me.

I'm not a die hard gamer. I went from an 8-bit Nintendo (a gift) to a used Sega Genesis (another gift). Then a PSOne until about 4 years ago when I got a PS2 (a gift).

What would it take? Partly, a price tag of about $150.

Additionally, most of the games coming out have a big "online" component. I don't have a high speed internet connection, and would be unable to take advantage of this. Obtaining high-speed would be just another expense that I'd have to incur to play some games. It's just not worth it for me.

Perhaps in several years (like 6 or 7) the price will drop to something that I would consider to be within my financial capabilities. I'm sure I'll have high speed access by then, since dial-up will probably be extinct.

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Posted By Chaoz-Xtreme on Saturday, July 21 @ 03:07:12 EDT
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Reason 3 - I bought a Xbox 360

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Posted By DeltaT on Saturday, July 21 @ 08:59:18 EDT
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If Ps3/360 came out at the same time might have been the only time I may have purchased one. That said I still would of went with a 360 because of price and Live. At this Point I have made some friends and have a blast on Live. There is no PS3 in my future. also the smear campaigns annoy me "buy ours cause theirs sucks" ... . Just tell me whats great about your system, I can make my own decisions

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Posted By TimboJackson on Saturday, July 21 @ 09:05:41 EDT
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It needs to come down in price. If it did that, I would consider getting one, especially now since Ninja Gaiden Sigma out. I love me some Ninja Gaiden.

-TJ

Halo 3 or Bust (Score: 1)

Posted By DEEP_NNN on Saturday, July 21 @ 09:14:44 EDT
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If it wasn't for watching my son play Halo 2 on XBL I wouldn't know any of you people. I'd gotten away from avid gaming and not much was catching my interest. My wife was happy about this too. Two and a half years later I'm still playing Halo 2 while waiting for Halo 3. I think you can see where this is going.

Halo 3. is not on the PS3. Since Halo 3's playable life span is likely to be 2.5 years, it will be that long before I'll have time to look at another system.

Even the XBox 360 was and is too expensive for me to justify. Luckily it doubles as a Media Centre Extender and my wife doesn't like seeing me sulk. Therefore the PS3 is also too expensive.

PS3 brings nothing to the table for me yet. Same went for the PS2 days. I was a Gamecube/N64 man then for Zelda and Mario games. Oops, forgot to mention Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.

Time is an issue. I don't have enough time to play one system let alone another.

Health. It's damn hard on an old body to sit around playing games. After playing two hours of Halo 2, I limp off to bed.

Friends to Bank On (Score: 1)

Posted By DEEP_NNN on Saturday, July 21 @ 09:32:42 EDT
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I'm embarrassed to say I forgot to mention my online friends. As long as my best friends and more than 50% of all my friends are on XBL, I'll not be getting a PS3. You can take that to the bank.

The TV? (Score: 1)

Posted By callmevil on Saturday, July 21 @ 10:06:17 EDT
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I have been considering to own a PS3 for quite sometime now.. its not the 499/599 price tag that scares me.. its the 1k-2k price tag of a good HDTV that worries me...

I dont own one of them fancy TV yet as there is little reason for me to get one.. accept for the PS3. If i do decide to get the PS3, then I will then have to spend around 2k for a super HDTV that supports 3xHDMI and all the works.. else I want to gimp my PS3 with a normal tv... NOWAiiii~

Then i have to think about proper sound systems to par my tv and gaming... so... a PS3 to me does not cost 499/599.. it actually cost at least 3k.... At least...

Too much for a gaming system... Id rather get a 8800 Ultra...

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Posted By macabee on Saturday, July 21 @ 10:54:10 EDT
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http://www.lik-sang.com/

Never forget

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Posted By ShortCut_815 on Saturday, July 21 @ 11:35:35 EDT
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I have always liked my Sony Consoles. i still have my first PS1 and play it a few times a year. I love my PS2 for SOCOM 2, 3, and combined assault. However, when i was ready to spend some cash on a new console(Fall 2006), i chose the XBOX 360. More / better games. Since i was an avid Sony player, i had no idea what MS had done with the online service. i really like the arcade classics and originals.The large amount of game demos always keeps me busy when i want to try something new. Anyway, i WILL be buying a PS3. I'm just waiting for these things to happen:

1) Socom:Confontation. i can't stress this enough.
2) More game demos/ game content available on PSN.
3) Gran Turismo
4) A "Friends" system identical to XBOX 360. it's just very well done.
5) Maybe Gamerscore? i don't know why, but i really like unlocking acheivements.

Are there any other Socom fans itching for this release?

An order from Kratos (Score: 1)

Posted By ObiBen8 on Saturday, July 21 @ 11:39:53 EDT
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I know that once God of War III is released for the PS3 I will be tempted to buy one. Hopefully by that time it will be much cheaper!

Haven't bought either yet (Score: 1)

Posted By bigdave32 on Saturday, July 21 @ 11:52:30 EDT
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I think i represent alot of the ps2 owners who haven't bought a new system yet. We tend to want a ps3, but it's too pricey. I've only been looking into it for 2 months now, and was actually leaning toward getting a 360 because it would mean the system, plus a few more games for what it would cost to get a ps3. I can't bring myself to buy a 360 because its too unreliable. That is the major reason I will buy a ps3 and not a 360. I also think that the ps3 will eventually surpass the 360 in graphics.

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Posted By PoltegIce on Saturday, July 21 @ 12:42:52 EDT
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The PS3 is a better machine hands down but the real question is can i have enough fun with it to make the price worth while. Right now the answer is a solid no. When will it be that fun, I don't know but I do think that by the time its enough fun to be worthwhile the next gen systems will be getting close to being released.

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Posted By Fiery on Saturday, July 21 @ 13:10:45 EDT
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Its all about the games.If they had more and better games than the 360 I would consider a ps3 since it is more expensive.Reliability doesnt matter since it now has a 3 year warranty and if you have one from Best Buy then you just bring it back and get a new one.

XBOX LIVE (Score: 1)

Posted By DrPlague on Saturday, July 21 @ 13:25:34 EDT
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I have made too many good friends on LIVE that I look forward to gaming with every week. There is no need for me to own a PS3, I enjoy the social aspect of what the 360 gives me too much to ever leave.

Probably Nothing.... (Score: 1)

Posted By dagz323 on Saturday, July 21 @ 16:30:56 EDT
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It really has nothing to do with Sony, its that with my 360 it does everything I want.

1) Multimedia hub for my home network
2) A good library of games
3) Xbox Live and Arcade

The PS3 may be able to do all that, I don't know...but the cost of the PS3 made me go to the 360, and once you have one there really is no reason to have the other.

Already Got One (Score: 1)

Posted By JasonX43 on Saturday, July 21 @ 18:35:20 EDT
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Even though I enjoyed my original 360 before it died, I'm glad I bought a PS3 because it gave me something to play while waiting on Circuit City send my gift card. I guess the good thing is I got an Elite for only $100 extra. Anyway, the reason I bought a PS3 is I enjoyed my PS2 more than any of the three last gen systems.

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Posted By PeepshowJanitor on Saturday, July 21 @ 20:55:19 EDT
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Either one for free, or a gun to my head!

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Posted By ONTHEGAS on Saturday, July 21 @ 21:17:15 EDT
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Being an old Socom fanatic on the PS2. The new online only game has me curious about the PS3. There would have to be another price drop, maybe $299. I don't use my consoles for anything but gaming. So that Blu-Ray player means nothing to me. The game looks amazing, but can't justify buying a console for just 1 game. I'm still upset about Sony's lack of support for their HDD. I have been gaming since the early days just like all of you, and 1 bad move caused me to have a sour taste in my mouth about Sony's future/promises.

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Posted By Tru4life on Saturday, July 21 @ 22:41:07 EDT
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Something about hell freezing over.

The Real Question Is... (Score: 1)

Posted By SeanoVox on Sunday, July 22 @ 10:06:41 EDT
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If you have an HDTV with HDMI and a surround sound system, why not have a console that supports HDMI? I mean every one complaining about price obviously didn't spent $2000 for a TV. The new $500 price tag is similar to my other components to my Home Theatre system.
Also there has been, plenty of talk about the real cost of the PS3 as compared to other systems @ launch most sites show that with inflation the Atari 2600 would be $700 dollars today. Now If you don't have HDTV then yes the PS3 adds nothing over the PS2 or Xbox360, but if HD is in your picture the PS3 is a no-brainer

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Posted By Captiosus on Sunday, July 22 @ 14:21:06 EDT
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This has to be the most inane drivel of a response I've read on the editorials, ever.

So if someone is buying an already outrageously expensive HDTV, they should go ahead and buy a console which just happens to have an HDMI output? Why, exactly? For Blu-ray, a format that hasn't yet "won" the next gen video battle?

Last I checked, the X360 Elite supports HDMI and comes with a cable out of the box. No, it doesn't have next gen video playback, but - and how many people have to say this before it sinks in, especially to Sony - I'm not interested in a gaming console to play next generation movies. If I want next gen video playback, I'd rather have a stand alone system. I'd rather not put wear and tear on my gaming console by using a secondary function like watching movies. Except, right now, for the PS3 watching Blu-ray movies seem to be more like a primary function and it appears this will be its function for many months to come.

If I'm inclined to spend 500 dollars on top of my TV purchase for a console, I'm going to get something which has a games library, and that something isn't the PS3.

The War is over (Score: 1)

Posted By SeanoVox on Sunday, July 22 @ 23:20:21 EDT
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Blu-Ray won, Blockbuster won't carry HD-DVD. And that will kill the format. MS may have been right not adding HD-DVD in the box. They will be able to have a Blu-Ray add-on (my guess is by christmas). Also I Play RTOFM every day and Warhawk is a great game, but when the time comes to watch a video the secondary function of Blu-Ray is Great... Also Great Oblivion on 1 Disc not 4.

Blu-ray may have won (Score: 1)

Posted By luciuskell on Monday, July 23 @ 23:21:26 EDT
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...but not the PS3.

so Blockbuster doesn't carry HD-DVDs, and the HD-DVD add on isn't selling as well for the 360.

i agree with Captiosus, i care too much for my gaming console to use it for anything else. especially since this generation's consoles cost much more than the last.

even if a blu-ray add on became available for the 360, i'd still wait for the REALLY cheap stand-alone ones to come out before i buy. am sure the Chinese and the Koreans are probably gonna sell blu-ray players below $100 eventually, just like they did for DVD players.

i can imagine why PS3 owners would also use their consoles to play Blu-ray movies, to the point of driving up the demand for Blu-ray movies above HD-DVD. let me put it this way: i hardly HAVE TIME to watch movies, since i'm too busy playing through 6 XBOX360 games alternately (and one of them is Oblivion, which is only 1 disc for the 360).

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Posted By donkhorse on Sunday, July 22 @ 12:00:48 EDT
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What Will It Take For You To Buy A PlayStation 3?

a massive price cut

This is what it would take for me to buy a PS3.. (Score: 1)

Posted By syslogs on Sunday, July 22 @ 14:36:04 EDT
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I'd buy 2 ps3's if this were the case:

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would not buy a ps3 (Score: 1)

Posted By goldenx5 on Monday, July 23 @ 03:00:38 EDT
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im not a diehard gamer,so i just buy the consoles for the games and i really dont care if ps3 has blue ray cause I would never buy a console for the movie playing option when i already have a dvd player.the ps3 price is way to much at around 800 after taxes in canada and when the 360 is only 580.00 about it just would not make sense to buy a ps3 and with the 200.00 you save by buying a 360 you could get 4 to 5 extra games.plus theres no exclusive games for ps3 besides the projected mgs4 and ive never got into that game so that would not be enough for me to but a ps3.Also i would say out of the 360, ps3, and wii the 360 too me is the one to get even though the wii is super cheap im a fan of fps and theres just not enough in that catagorie with the wii and i would want slitely beter graphics. but all in all i would say that ps3 would have to have a significant price drop for me to even be interested in it

i already bit... (Score: 1)

Posted By puddin on Monday, July 23 @ 08:02:40 EDT
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and i have to admit, i was completely sold by the media in a big way. after the price cut on the 60gb, then the anouncement that when those are gone there will only be the 80gb i started to think. also i read that the new model will not include the same components and perhaps not have full back compatability? i still have two broken PS2's sitting on a shelf....so i started checking my bank account.

regardless of these two points being true or not, i now had an itch that needed to be scratched.

what really did it in the end was actually a couple games, though. MGS4, little big planet, super stardust HD is fun as hell, i'm a big fan of socom....and tekken. once i heard the announcement that dark resurrection is getting an update to include online play, and that tekken 6 was confirmed to have it as well, that was that. when it comes down to it, if tekken were the only game i'd ever get to play....i would never even need another game to play.

so i bought one. also a PS2 to PS3 controller adapter for my tekken 5 anniversary arcade stick. i'm content.

oh yeah! $499 is still a good price for a blu-ray player.

For Me It Would Take... (Score: 1)

Posted By biggdogg40509 on Monday, July 23 @ 10:23:52 EDT
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a BJ from a big breasted Asian hottie......

and a better price drop.

About 12 months (Score: 1)

Posted By heebyskeeby on Monday, July 23 @ 11:08:07 EDT
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For me, it will take six months to a year for the PS3 to build up a solid enough platform of games for me to consider a purchase worthwhile. The system graphics are gorgeous but with no games besides a few downloads catching my eye, what's the point? In a year, not only is there more potential for price drops, more time for the format war to rage, and more time for system-killing hardware flaws to be outed, but enough development time will have passed for it to be possible to enjoy the console without having to play standout games one by one, as they are released. Home will have time to get the kinks ironed out, Little Big Planet and the other E3 games will be chugging along, and I'll be able to buy games that excite me on the same day I purchase my console.

I've got one (Score: 1)

Posted By D1STORT1ON on Monday, July 23 @ 18:56:10 EDT
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OK, I've got one that I bought with credit for a 360 when it died. I bought a new 360 and traded the refurb in. I play both systems and was an xbox fanatic until the constant hardware failure and seemingly unending milking for money. There were games on the PS3 I wanted to play, as well as PS2 games.

That said,

I didn't spend much more money initially on the PS3 with everything in it than by getting the 360 premium and having to add the wireless adapter, quick charge cables, batteries, LIVE etc.. MS just gets your money in smaller increments.

Sony's online, while it isn't xbox live now, does have hooks to get into games. We have a PS3 clan in 2old2play and can arrange game nights and times and get everyone together that way. We are trying to build the community on the PS3. We need people from this site to hop on board and play. Yes, you can have friends in xbox land and PS3 land. Supposedly the XMB will be integrated into games in an update coming soon which function-wise pretty much duplicates LIVE. Maybe it will work well, maybe not. But the tools are there.

Yes, there are a bunch of cross platform games, but it is the Sony exclusives that will make the system worth owning. Ratchet and Clank, Little Big Planet, Resistance, Warhawk, Drake's Fortune, Lair, God of War plus a bunch more make the system worth it.

looks like this choice has been made for you (Score: 1)

Posted By sectionz on Tuesday, July 24 @ 14:19:28 EDT
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i mean come on how can you deny wanting a ps3 to play metal gear solid 4 any longer after the game play video hit the streets today .. i didnt even care for metal gear until now .. but wow, show us more konami!

$100 cut did it for me (Score: 1)

Posted By Biznass on Tuesday, July 24 @ 23:19:46 EDT
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The price cut did it for me. Maybe I'm part Sony fanboi or the fact that I hate M$ with a passion (btw, I have a 360 as well). Everybody talks up "LIVE" but I find it full of just complete asshole kids, and GOW and Halo just don't do it for me. My 360 is in parts and hasen't even been turned on in a month at least. The ps3 is on right now installing Linux and I can hear the fans on my laptop over the ps3 easily, try that with a 360. I paid about as much for my 360 as I did for my ps3 (with wireless, blu-ray and a 60gb hd) . I've already watched a blu-ray movie and it looked fantastic, even the wife said it looked better than dvd. Overall, I feel the ps3 is just an all around better machine, now they need to bring the games and "home" and my 360 is going up on ebay (well, maybe not, for some reason I really enjoy "99 Knights"). I guess it really comes down to what tickles your pickle.

Too expensive and not enough games of interest (Score: 1)

Posted By iloverpgs on Saturday, July 28 @ 22:05:41 EDT
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I am old fashion and know it may be costly to create a gaming console, but the console isn't what sells me on buying one. I don't believe a gaming console is worth more than $100-150 US Dollars. And the reason I believe this is you have to buy games you like in order to use it. With the first Xbox you had a hard drive. You could add your favorite songs to it and use your system for more than just games. The games they're coming out with on these consoles are too much of a hack and slash for an old gamer like me. I am always interested in turn based games whether RPGs or Strategy. They are taking away the reasons I like RPGs in the first place. You want me to buy a Sony PS3, then it's simple. Turn base battles, turn based strategy games. Get a good strategy game like Galactic Civilizations II Dread Lords. The games are what convince me on a sony PS2. The PC is still making better quality games. The key here is TURN BASE GAMES. It's the games that sell the consoles, the consoles don't sell the games

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