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Microsoft to Alternate Gears and Halo

by TANK| Published: Tuesday, December 12 @ 15:04:46 EST
If an yet to be published EGM article is to believed, it looks like Microsoft has found it's latest weapon against Sony... Alternating blockbuster game releases! Microsoft already does this with Forza Motorsport and Project Gotham Racing though neither of them are blockbuster level games.

Which two blockbuster games could Microsoft alternate to fuel the 'must have' console sale fire in the Christmas shopping season? You probably already guess them, Gears of War and Halo. Cliffy B and others have already commented on how Gears of War was designed to be a trilogy but would only continue if the first game was a success, which it is. Halo 3 set to release in November 2007 will be the last chapter in that trilogy but we all know Microsoft will continue rolling it's cash cow franchise. You don't walk away from something that puts $125 Million in the bank.

Going back a couple of years, Halo 2, the most successful Xbox video game in history, sold 2.38 million units in the first 24 hours of going on sale in North America. That's a take of $125 Million in a 24 hour period which surpasses Hollywood's current blockbuster king Spider-Man which took in $114 million in 3 days.

Gears of War on the other hand is a brand new franchise much like Halo was for the Xbox launch. Even though there's not as many Xbox 360's out there as there were Xboxes when Halo 2 launched, Gears of War has set new sales records for an Xbox 360 title. In just two weeks, Gears of War has sold more then 1 Million copies, has toppled Halo 2 from the top of the most played games list Xbox Live Gold subscriptions rose 50 percent.

Microsoft alternating these blockbuster titles helps give them huge boosts in sales going through the holiday season. It also means a release schedule of every two hears for our favorite games. Of course this also kind of unofficially confirms that the Halo franchise will continue on past Halo 3.

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hmmmmm... (Score: 1)
Posted By NewBoyX on Tuesday, December 12 @ 15:11:11 EST
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Seems like a no brainer.


November? (Score: 1)
Posted By KingDrewsky on Tuesday, December 12 @ 15:21:19 EST
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Is this the first confirmation of a November release? I thought that it had only been speculation so far.

It seems doubtful that Bungie could produce Halo4 in just 2 years, so they might be plugging in Halo Wars or that Peter Jackson Halo game in that timeslot and rotating Halo 4 to 2009. Or maybe they will just supply beatings to sluggish coders in order to assure new Halo FPS's every 2 years.




they could (Score: 1)
Posted By Falelorn on Tuesday, December 12 @ 16:10:52 EST
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With the new XnA tools (the pro ones not the free ones) it is possible for sure since they drastically speed up development and you can plug in almost any middleware to it.




Not only that, (Score: 1)
Posted By jtgjr007 on Wednesday, December 13 @ 16:21:35 EST
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but Halo 3 needs to be built from the ground up for the 360, Halo 4 can use alot of what mde Halo 3 so it won't take as long.





I guess the real question is... (Score: 1)
Posted By OldSkewl on Tuesday, December 12 @ 15:15:10 EST
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Will Gears hold you over for a full year? If so, their plan will help them to dominate this market for quite a while.


doesnt need to really (Score: 1)
Posted By Falelorn on Tuesday, December 12 @ 16:11:43 EST
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Mass Effect
Crackdown
Brothers in Arms
Stranglehold
Assassins Creed

many more big name games coming




Don't forget (Score: 1)
Posted By jtgjr007 on Wednesday, December 13 @ 16:18:44 EST
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Halo 2 is going to get new maps this spring....only for the 360.





Huge difference (Score: 1)
Posted By Philosophyzer on Tuesday, December 12 @ 15:23:22 EST
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One of the massive differences between Gears and Halo is Bungie. Bungie is a company that is very interactive. While they may not give details of their upcoming product and sometimes keep things close to the vest, they also invest a GREAT deal of PR trying to keep current with their community.

This goes a long way towards customizations of gametypes and polish of things like their party system & lobby. THOSE are the legends of H2 in my mind ... the single player game was great .. the multi-player polish and features were what put it so far over the top no game company has come close since.

Gears has a long way to go before they achieve this status. And it's a shame too, because if people just started with bungie's party system and lobby and built from there - we'd all be happier gamers.



Halo = MS's Mario? (Score: 1)
Posted By MTK005 on Tuesday, December 12 @ 15:47:01 EST
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I've long held the opinion that MS would, in time, turn Halo into their version of Mario. Is this subtle confirmation? Can I expect HaloKart?

Come on, think about how cool it would be to drive the Grunt Kart. :p


Weapons (Score: 1)
Posted By TANK on Tuesday, December 12 @ 15:54:02 EST
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The Carts would need to have weapons though :)




I can see it! (Score: 1)
Posted By OilsFan on Tuesday, December 12 @ 16:05:06 EST
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Get in your Scorpions, Banshees and Warthogs and race around the tracks at high velocity with high power weapons blasting!







Id buy it (Score: 1)
Posted By Falelorn on Tuesday, December 12 @ 16:16:45 EST
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Halo Cart Racer.. sheesh I would buy it..




Pick your Vehicle... (Score: 1)
Posted By MTK005 on Tuesday, December 12 @ 17:16:26 EST
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And your character, I'd say give me the Sarge on a mini-ghost (i see player models looking like the Halo babies).

Grab your power ups, like rockets, plasma blasts, flash bangs. sticky grenades, brute grenades, human grenades... you name it :p

Damn, if only I could convince MS/Bungie to do it...




It already is (Score: 1)
Posted By jtgjr007 on Wednesday, December 13 @ 16:23:55 EST
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An RTS coming soon, a movie in the works, Halo 3 this year...I wouldn't be suprised if we see Halo rides at Disneyland.





Halo is like Rocky (Score: 1)
Posted By Angelito on Tuesday, December 12 @ 16:00:45 EST
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It will always come back :)


I hope so but only if... (Score: 1)
Posted By Falelorn on Tuesday, December 12 @ 16:17:17 EST
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he doesnt get worse and worse every time he comes back





What about Bungie? (Score: 1)
Posted By Free_at_Last on Tuesday, December 12 @ 18:38:30 EST
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Bugie has said that they don't intend to make any more Halo games after Halo 3. That would mean that any new Halo games would be made by outside parties. That's not a bad thing, necessarily, but I would be concerned that the story and the quality would take a dip.

Of course, maybe Bungie will change their mind, but they seemed pretty definite that this would be the end of the line for them.



Gears of War does not have a frothing at the mouth multiplayer community.... (Score: 1)
Posted By Moefoe71 on Tuesday, December 12 @ 18:57:43 EST
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and a Bungized Multiplayer system won't be enough. The multiplayer matches I have played, upwards of 200 or so, have not whet my appetite for more action. It is a once a week type of title. All of the matches seem to play out the same way. I haven't had a big wow moment and suspect I never will. I had more fun playing Uridium on the Commodore 64 than I have had playing the single player campaign too; boooooooooorrrinng - wash - rinse- repeat....

It is not Halo, Halo 2, the original Rainbow Six, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, or Pandora Tomorrow. You remember those classic titles and 100s of hours wasted? It is popular because there is nothing else to play. Rainbow Vegas I have yet to try.. The 360 still sorta sucks ass at this point. I am starting to hate the damn ass, loud as hell, AAA multiplayer-lacking, piece of crap.

Shadowrun shows some promise... Halo 3 is a year away.




re.: What about Bungie (Score: 1)
Posted By VladHatter on Tuesday, December 12 @ 19:03:35 EST
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Two words: Myth III.

Myth: TFL & Myth II were amazing games, but Bungie sold the rights to Myth III to another developer, I believe GODGames. I never bought it when it came out. Years later, my wife saw it at Half Price Books and picked one up. Little did I know that it would not work with Windows XP!!! While I doubt that would happen with a game published on the Xbox 360, it still gives me pause.

vh




Microsoft owns Bungie (Score: 1)
Posted By TANK on Wednesday, December 13 @ 00:35:30 EST
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Bungie' sgoing to pretty much do what Microsoft tells them to do since they're boss. They have a good working relationship now and Microsoft gives them a long leash. But when push comes to shove on Microsoft wanting Bungie to do another Halo and Bungie saying they'd rather not, Microsoft's gong to win.




Untitled (Score: 1)
Posted By Free_at_Last on Wednesday, December 13 @ 07:58:30 EST
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I don't agree with you on that. What is MS going to do, fire the people that made two of the most popular games they have on their flagship console? Bungie has a history of putting out great games and I think MS would allow them to create something new with the expectation that it's going to be good. My impression of most of the people at the upper levels at Bungie is that this is not just a matter of grinding out games and getting paid, they want to do something new and great. I could have seen them producing the RTS Halo Wars but since they farmed that out I don't know where they'll go next.

Anyway, this is just speculation from a magazine which is put in there to sell copies. If there's verification from MS or Bungie I'll believe it, but I'm sure that it's just buzz to try to get people to buy the mag.




Untitled (Score: 1)
Posted By Mrs_Doublefire on Wednesday, December 13 @ 01:15:14 EST
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Bungie never said they weren't making anymore Halo games after Halo 3! What they said was, Halo 3 completes this story arc within the Halo universe.




You're right...however (Score: 1)
Posted By Free_at_Last on Wednesday, December 13 @ 07:52:08 EST
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I went back and did my homework and you're right. However, I don't know what they're going to do with Halo after the MC has saved the universe (or not maybe). Kind of hard to ramp back up again with a bigger bad guy/guys and filling in back-story probably won't work either. Maybe Bungie keeps control of the intellectual property while others make games, but I just don't think we'll see another Halo FPS from Bungie after H3.




There's plenty (Score: 1)
Posted By jtgjr007 on Wednesday, December 13 @ 16:26:27 EST
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of content and story for several games after Halo 3. There could be side stories with different Spartans, there are alot of missions MC goes on before humans encounter the Covenant, if you're familiar with the books you'd see that there's no shortage of material.




other story arcs for Halo universe (Score: 1)
Posted By moesley on Friday, December 15 @ 16:36:12 EST
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--they could do a campaign based on the human civil war/rebellion in space

--they could do all sorts of stuff with the various covenant story arcs(the different wars to subjugate the various covenant races, the civil war between brutes and elites, etc.)

--there are at least 3 teams of spartans they could focus on. i think the spartan III's would be a very interesting and different type of game. more stealth based, yet still hardcore fps.

--take your pick of the forerunner story arcs.

--they could always do a sergeant johnson story arc, he'd be fun to run through a campaign with and he'd have funny dialog:)

there's a LOT bungie could do, all of it would be interesting and if they kept pumping out new maps, new campaigns, and held onto the superior mp system they'd make money. lots of it. which, if you think about it, is all M$ is about and they do pay the bills at bungie.




I don't Believe Bungie (Score: 1)
Posted By Fired_Yo_Momma on Wednesday, December 13 @ 14:22:41 EST
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Yea right...Halo is going to stop at just three. Here is what is going to happen sequel/prequel and all the other "quels" will be introduced for this game. Can we say Star Wars and Rocky Balboa!





Hmm (Score: 1)
Posted By Twin1911 on Tuesday, December 12 @ 22:17:03 EST
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Most ppl have to renew their subscriptions in November too.


That is true! (Score: 1)
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YOu're totally right about that, something i completely over looked.





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