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Crime Rate Down Among Kids, Not Up

by JonahFalcon| Published: Monday, April 28 @ 15:07:02 EDT

With Grand Theft Auto IV only two days away, Jack Thompson and other mindless pundits are bound to get their panties in a bunch, but according to recent stats, violent crime among children has dropped:

Despite perceptions that video gamers tend to be children, industry statistics indicate typical players are more than 30 years old.

“People think video games are for kids and they’re not anymore,” said Woo.

While concerns about violent games breeding criminals remain strong, US national statistics show that violent crimes by children have been on the decline for years while video game play has rocketed.

“If there is this big causal trend you would expect to see a large leap in violent crime among kids, but there is not,” said Mia Consalvo, an assistant professor specializing in video game research at Ohio University.

The main thing is this: the game is clearly rated as Mature, and it’s parental responsibility to watch not only what their children play, but what movies they go to, what magazines they read, and so forth. In fact the one thing that separates 2old2play gamers from other non-gaming parents, is that we know the games our children are playing because we play them too.

(Thanks, AFP-Google.)

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Posted By V10L3N7_JAY on Monday, April 28 @ 16:39:28 EDT
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Jack Thompson has already started, copy and paste this address and read this article
http://planethalflife.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=150439


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Posted By nomindo on Tuesday, April 29 @ 17:41:12 EDT
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Oh. My. God. That is one of the most single disturbing things I have ever read. As I read read the letter, the gears in my head came to a screeching halt as I tried to wonder why someone would say something like that to somebody's mother. Right before Mother's Day. And then tries to rub her face in it. Wow, just wow.





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Posted By xBIGWIGx on Monday, April 28 @ 16:57:36 EDT
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To counter JT there needs to be an AT (Anti-Thompson). The reason people listen to him is because he's the only one standing on that box, screaming foul. We need a town crier of our own to counteract his rants and ravings with info like what you've presented here. If crime is down among kids we need someone to walk up to Jack, hold up a bullhorn and scream "HEY ASSHOLE, YOUTH CRIME IS DOWN, LOOK AT THIS, ITS CALLED PROOF!!"



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Posted By tekahn on Tuesday, April 29 @ 02:25:41 EDT
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PPL like jack thompson make a career and get alot of attention for being anti this and anti that. Dont expect the facts to slow them down.



What about the good that Vids and TV do?? (Score: 1)
Posted By Dr_Mindcrime on Tuesday, April 29 @ 23:29:40 EDT
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My problem with guys like this (other than the fact that these so-called 'christian conservatives' are trying to turn this country into Iran...and at the same time bomb Iran...but I digress...) is that they never give any credit to the good that having a nation of less-than-scholarly-yet-armed individuals sitting in front of the television is doing for us.

They always assume that people who are playing video games are doing so at the expense of curing cancer, writing the next great American novel, or feeding the homeless.

When in fact the pacification effect of TV and video games is probably preventing more crime than it could ever cause. How many would be criminals have neglected to rob the 7-11 down the street because they couldn't be bothered to put the controller down? How many would-be thugs were too lazy to turn off Gilligans Island to go on that tri-state killing spree?

And after 80 hours on the couch of ultra-violent GTA4 and wolfing down ding-dongs, pizza and beer, our would-be carjackers are in no kind of shape to chase down a car. They get winded just reaching for the remote.

I say keep us plugged in and tuned out. It is doing much less harm than good!



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Posted By FreynApThyr on Wednesday, April 30 @ 13:14:42 EDT
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Nothing about this snip of an article proves or disproves anything Thompson is saying.

The correlation between the drop in youth crime (which is a decades long trend) and the rise of readily available, Mature themed video games, marketed to home users, is only that. A correlation, which any statistician will remind you does not imply any other relationship at all.

Direct causation studies have had mixed results in terms of violent video games and their effect on the behavior of children. Stanford, which in my opinion does the most rigorous and careful experiments in child behavior studies, still does not have a verifiable result or satisfactory answer to the questions raised by Thompson, et.al.

The full article quoted does a pretty sensible job of summing up the the issues surrounding the game in a way that this quote does not. I don't know who Mia Consalvo is. I don't know the text or context of what she was quoted on but at least in the full article it had some context to lend it perspective. I am confident that she has never claimed the level of authority on this issue that Jack Thompson, the ESRB, the National Institue of Media and Family, or any other person or body directly involved in the debate about policing video games does. As this gets reposted around the net her few statements become the kernel of a debate that is specious and easily contradicted- through no fault of her own.

The lack of understanding of the complex study of statistics and scientific research in general is what makes it possible for an assclown like Thompson to thrive. If the proponents of mature themed games try to use this study as "proof" that more restrictive marketing practices are not necessary, they look like idiots. And Thompson wins. If you want a voice to rally against Thompson lets make sure we arm them with better facts than these.


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Posted By Captiosus on Monday, May 05 @ 05:52:08 EDT
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While I agree with you, FreynApThyr, I have to take issue with one of your comments.

" If the proponents of mature themed games try to use this study as "proof" that more restrictive marketing practices are not necessary, they look like idiots."

Ok, why do there have to be "proponents of mature themed games"? I certainly don't see proponents of R-rated movies or opponents of them. Yet many of them carry just as much blood, guts and gore in a 2 to 3 hour block of time as M-rated games carry in 10 times that amount of time.

Thompson is most definately an assclown. And only a very small portion of people, learned or otherwise, listen to him: The portion which already agree with his narrow minded viewpoint. There will never be enough scientific data to prove or disprove that M-rated games have a direct causal link to increased violence just as there has never been enough data to prove or disprove R-rated movies have a similar effect.

I'm just sick and tired of assclowns like this hopping on the "new, trendy" medium to get their face on TV. It reminds me of the 80s with people claiming heavy metal made kids homicidal. Or the 60s when people claimed Elvis' hip gyrations made people promiscuous. Clearly those were accurate. (/sarcasm) I just don't understand why M-rated games have to have some big proponent. If it were that big of a deal, M-rated games would have already gone the way of AO Rated games.




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Posted By JonahFalcon on Wednesday, May 07 @ 16:06:19 EDT
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Don't forget comic books in the 50's (Seduction of the Innocent), movies in the 20's (Hays Code), jazz, and so forth.





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