J-Cat

Name: J-Cat
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06/27/09 Return to main blog
2old2play A relationship and should be treated as such (urgent call for community input)
I love this place.
Ya'll know that. 2old2play is a community and a second home to many. Before 2old2play I had never heard about a clan and I never would have played an FPS. Today I am a clan leader and last week I helped to run a FPS based community event. What happened to me? You guys did. For that I thank you. In return I work hard at this relationship that we have.
And it is a relationship, and every relationship needs hard work to make it better. Sometimes you have to stop and take stock. How are we doing? Where are we going? Can we make it better? And it has to be true input, not just "oh yeah baby, ya know I love you." type of stuff. REAL input. Hard to hear input. The "umm... yeah sweetie that dress does make your ass look fat, maybe we should go out for a walk instead of sitting on our asses and eating burgers." type of input.
So... Lan is on like tron and yeah: it may be a smaller event than usual. Meh: Less people I have to buy a round for, less people telling me how fan-fucking-tastic I am. I am very much looking forward to seeing those that are going. Those that aren't maybe next year. I know that there are quite a few people here that want to go, but can't. And because of that "the usual suspects" may not be able to go to Lan, where in previous years, it wasn't as much of a problem. The economy sucks: I get that.
BUT the economy can't account for everything. Theoretically there are 16,000 members: we should be able to wrestle 100 people to go to lan from that number. Ah-ha! you say! 16,000 but not all of them are active! so our pool is much smaller. That begs a question that has weighed on my mind for a really, really long time.
Why are people leaving and not coming back? Why out of 16,000 are precious few active? And few of those seem to be active outside their clan. How do we get people from being lurkers and turn them into community leaders?
Are we doing what we can to welcome new members? To make them feel welcome to the site as a whole? Are people feeing connected only to their clans, but not to the site in general? I have heard it said that 2old2play has changed: it used to be a villiage, now it's a metropolis.
If 2old2play has evolved from a villiage to a metropolis, are we doing a good enough job at getting everyone around the council table?
So, let's not use $ as an excuse. What else is going on? I know that everyone here loves 202p: I would never quesstion that. but that doesn't mean that we can't improve. What do you want to see? Doodi is working tail straight out on V3.0: so lots of the site mechanics are going to get better.
I honestly love this place. I really do. I have had people tell me that I have GOT to step back a whole bunch: to be less invested. But if my gut is right: I think we have some excellent opportunities to make this place better, but ONLY if the rank and file want it to be better. And we have to determine what "better" means. The feedback here will determine my actions. If my gut is wrong, then my gut is wrong and that means that I can relax a whole lot this summer. But if I'm right: say so. Then we can work on it.
edit: I hate not having the thumbs: if I was totally offf base with this and people are hating: I can't tell. BUT I also can't tell if people are loving this blog either. please: can I has thumbs?
Posted by J-Cat on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 1:17 pm EDT | 15 Comments
Posted by Gatsu on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 1:20 pm EDT
If you can't go that sucks it does. I would love to meet you. But like DSmooth said: lan tickets are down 50%. BUT we have grown by leaps and bounds. Where are the new people? Where are the people that couldn't go last year or the year before?
This isn't necessarily about Lan specifically: it's about site participation.
Posted by J-Cat on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 1:24 pm EDT
Great post J-cat!!!
Posted by metalian on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 1:33 pm EDT
Posted by mrsleestak on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 2:12 pm EDT
I think it would be safe to assume we have maybe 1000 active members on the site and by active I mean check in and post at least once a week. Within that 1000 you probably have 300 that are hardcore members, on the site every day, multiple times during a day, post multiple times a day, rss feeds of the site etc..
People leave for many,many reasons:
Some get butt hurt..."Oh they did not like what I had to say to I am out."
Some are intimidated..."Oh if I say something they might not like what I have to say...I am out"
Some think they can do it better and just leave, only to find out they can't and do not want to return in shame.
Some just can't find anyone they like, which is fine. Everyone does not have to like everyone else.
Hell, I do not want every new person that comes to this site to be in my clan. At least until I have gotten to know them, played with them, see if they turn into a giant douche bag or not. Even then, if they are cool with me it does not me they are cool with everyone.
And finally some people just do not give a shit..
All we can do (and what you have done) is try to be active, try to make the site better, and change.
We just cannot try to change for every single person or opinion. We can only try to make the site the best it can be for the people that want to be active within it.
Posted by lbsutke on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 2:27 pm EDT
Posted by MrGuster on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 2:29 pm EDT
Posted by Caesar on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 2:45 pm EDT
oh, and i have purchased my lan and room tickets already
Posted by rumbagod on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 3:38 pm EDT
There is so much you can do without doing much. Some are SCC members, which basically means we donate to the site on a regular basis. You know who we are by the star next to our name.
Making comments on articles that someone has taken a lot of time to prepare and post on the front page.
Try your hand at writing. Ya never know.
Attend Community Playdate.....easy, just show up and play with whoever is there. You do that anyway, right?
Much more, but this is J-Cat's blog.....
Posted by pearly_54 on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 4:36 pm EDT
Another problem for me though is seeing these blogs asking why people aren't going. It almost seems like folks are trying to guilt others into buying these tickets. The more of those I see make me not only not want to go this year or in the future.
Posted by RivalJJH on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 5:28 pm EDT
Posted by J-Cat on Sat Jun 27, 2009 @ 5:31 pm EDT
no thumbs from me. i hate those things.
Posted by LuxDevil67 on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 7:12 pm EDT
Posted by Jmarps on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 7:42 pm EDT
First, love the post. I know that you and I passed some PM's back and forth about this very subject. I think for many, they get here and are just so overwhelmed at the size and scope of 2old2play. I joined almost 2 years ago and it was my first experience in online gaming, with Clans and with a site that was set-up just for this purpose. I was very nervous about what I was expected to do. I lucked out and found a great Clan and the rest is history.
So what can we do. I think that an OL meeting would be great. The OL's could gather feedback from their Clan and then pass it up the chain. I think a help wanted page would be great as well. Doodi and the staff could post jobs they need help with. Folks could apply via PM or a button click and it would streamline the process that is now spread out in forum posts all over the site.
Lastly, maybe a monthly "Noobs Night" for all of the folks who have just joined. The site mixer was great and I think more interaction sponsored by the site would help folks build their FL and get to know all the other great people here at 2old2play. I know that I game with many folks not in my Clan because I met them via mixers or site tourneys. Speaking of tourney's, why don't we have some more COD games? I know Halo is cool old school...but really? Let’s kick some COD or have a poker night, golf tourney, hockey league, racing league, etc.
Anyway, love the passion and the spirit J-Cat, let me know if you need help with anything as I too love this place and want to help make it better any way I can!
PMA
Posted by PowerMacAttack on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 8:32 pm EDT
I think that people being more nice would be a good thing too...I mean, at least until the noob gets that we trash talk cos we love. lol
Posted by hilskie on Mon Jun 29, 2009 @ 1:53 am EDT
